And a Longbow would still do less damage today than it would yesterday at max range. Not to mention my gun missing at 2.0 yalms and closer at a 90% rate. My Annihilator has a "sweet spot" of 8 yalms. Which is fucking retarded because it's basically a cannon and bullet speed/trajectory would mean standing at max range would provide minimal drop off in damage dealt.

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Yeah, it was SE's nerf, just because the numbers are switched around you feel it's any different, it isn't. But instead of us trying to convince you, why don't you convince us? Why don't you go gather 250 pages of spreadsheet data and prove to us that it's an overall buff, or at the very least not a nerf? Until then I'm convinced you are just preaching because you can't tolerate being told you are wrong.

Nabutso keep fighting the player base... its really not a good idea... this update was pure shit.. the sneak and invis nerf was shit... the Range buff/nerf was shit... OWNM crashes still exist... happened last night in garliage citadel... This whole update was shit... Does nasomi really want to drive people from this server? cause honestly he is doing a pretty good job with this update... just saying... Look at the big picture... he opened a huge can of worms... Also he did lie to player base... thats bad bro...

I'm in this thread begging for people to gather data and present it to nas because if it doesn't match what he wants it to be, then it's gonna be changed. It's in your best interest to get the changes you want, I am not gonna go and gather all the data for you, especially since you don't seem to want to believe me anyway, what's the point?


Why didn't anyone report the crash in Garlaige? The sneak/invis "nerf" was a bug fix.

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Does anyone actually like this change? Anyone?

I've not encountered any positive feedback about this change at all. I'm not memeing, I've honestly had nothing positive said about this update.

When nobody likes it, you have to ask, why was it done?

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THIS WHOLE POST IS LITERALLY THE STUPIDEST SHIT I THINK I'VE EVER READ!!!!!!?!?!!!

You really think sneak / invis only lasted for 1-4 minutes on retail???? HOLY FUCKING SHIT... Problem solved here... Who do I need to talk to that actually knows what they are talking about.

you legitimately never touched retail in your entire life.

Every single WHM, RDM, etc, remembers casting sneak or invis and immediately seeing the "Sneak/Invis is about to wear off" message on at least one occasion.

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Yep this is the problem. Not even nas has tested this enough to say it isnt a nerf. Both sides are subjectively deciding how this balances out. But we asked if it was a nerf and were told it wasnt. Next time, maybe "it's a nerf and maybe a buff to offset it." Nas can do whathe wants, and we'll react accordingly; but if youre going to make yourself his spokesperson, and you want us to listen to what you have to say, you need to do a better job, nabutso.

It did last 1-7mins on retail.

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This society is really tryin me, ain't no hide and seek
I hide to be far from anxiety, I need my space,
I need my privacy, I need some signs please,
You're all too loud you don't speak quietly, opinions violently.
Deft/Drop