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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:15 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
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Not sure where you can possibly get 35-38 attack rounds in 30 seconds.. Kraken club delay is 264. 500ms implies there was 30 delay being added on. So it was 294. With max gear and buffs of 56.72% haste, it was being brought down to ~127. 120 even would equal 15 attack rounds in a 30 second zerg. Being the proper 264 delay means it is now being brought down to ~114, about an 11% dps increase, or 15.78 attack rounds in 30 seconds compared with 14.17 before. Maybe deadwing can correct me if i'm wrong.


Ah. Right, I was incorrectly using haste cap (I'm used to the calculation for 2 handers). Forgot that you can only get 63.75% Haste with just magic.

Still, the math shows it should be an 11-13% increase from pre-patch.


I thought you claimed to be some veteran theorycrafter and you dont know haste caps?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:08 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
I thought you claimed to be some veteran theorycrafter and you dont know haste caps?


I don't think I've ever claimed to be anything other than someone who has played this game for way too long.

Most of the time when thinking of Haste cap you're thinking of two handers (which is 80%) like Apoc. Very few people had KCs on retail. That's more of a Nasomi phenomenon.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:46 am 
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Its actually a 80% delay reduction cap not 80% haste cap, this was found out later on after the level cap went out and more and more dual wield gear became available. Cant say if thats how its coded here or not though.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:34 am 
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According to this information, the delay reduction cap was added later and discovered accordingly. I can't make heads or tails from the video evidence. Thoughts?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:31 am 
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There use to be no cap, and once Hasso and desperate blows was added there was zerging being done with rune choppers and apocs. A cap was then implemented at 80% which everyone assumed was a haste cap. After the cap went up and it became easier to to cap out your haste and more dual wield+ gear became available to ninja it was discovered that its 80% delay reduction, not 80% haste cap, since people were planning on just swapping out dualwield+ on nin inplace of haste once they could stay capped at 25% in gear.


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