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Louiscool
 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:39 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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Everyone wants an accurate server and until it's their job that gets pointed out is crazy broken, I guess.


I think you mistakenly believe the previous iteration of RNG wasn't accurate......

Which, it wasn't, it should have been slightly stronger with the ammo TP bug fixed.. but I don't think that's what you mean.


I wish someone was as blindly faithful to me as Wolffhardt is to the idea that RNG wasn't broken.
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Dodi
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Mark my words- in one month most ppl won't be complaining anymore and Ranger will still be used about the same amount and to about the same effect. Same shit happened with SMN and look how that nerf turned out...
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Wolffhardt
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Louiscool wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Louiscool wrote:


I think you mistakenly believe the previous iteration of RNG wasn't accurate......

Which, it wasn't, it should have been slightly stronger with the ammo TP bug fixed.. but I don't think that's what you mean.


I wish someone was as blindly faithful to me as Wolffhardt is to the idea that RNG wasn't broken.


It was broken for over a year and a half. Ammo just didn't count as TP at all. What a silly bug.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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Kazen
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Louiscool wrote:
I wish someone was as blindly faithful to me as Wolffhardt is to the idea that RNG wasn't broken.


What about RNG was broken previously?

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Wolffhardt
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Dodi wrote:
Mark my words- in one month most ppl won't be complaining anymore and Ranger will still be used about the same amount and to about the same effect. Same shit happened with SMN and look how that nerf turned out...



SMN is pretty fucking horrible now, relatively speaking.

It's used...significantly less.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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mello
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:41 pm 
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Therin wrote:
I'm 100% behind the idea that distance should be relevant to make Ranger an actual ranged job.

But from what I've heard various Rangers report, I just think that this particular iteration of the distance patch should be adjusted.


I agree.... and I think this is the first of multiple changes to come for Ranger.

I don't think it's a good change, however, we can't just be scared of every change. A lot of people are going to complain about change no matter if its good or bad just because it's a change to begin with. Hopefully adjustments will come quickly that remedy some of the collateral damage this patch caused. I for one agree that a class called Ranger, should be ranged... though, not with the current balance.

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Louiscool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:42 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:

I think you mistakenly believe the previous iteration of RNG wasn't accurate......

Which, it wasn't, it should have been slightly stronger with the ammo TP bug fixed.. but I don't think that's what you mean.


I wish someone was as blindly faithful to me as Wolffhardt is to the idea that RNG wasn't broken.


It was broken for over a year and a half. Ammo just didn't count as TP at all. What a silly bug.


I believe everything that is broken should be fixed, so you're talking to the wrong guy when you do stupid thought experiments of like, "If you're going to fix this, then you have to fix this!!!!!" ---- I agree. Get on it. You didn't "catch" me. Fix it all.
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Kazen
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Dodi wrote:
Mark my words- in one month most ppl won't be complaining anymore and Ranger will still be used about the same amount and to about the same effect. Same shit happened with SMN and look how that nerf turned out...



SMN is pretty fucking horrible now, relatively speaking.

It's used...significantly less.


Don't let facts change the narrative.

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Dodi
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Dodi wrote:
Mark my words- in one month most ppl won't be complaining anymore and Ranger will still be used about the same amount and to about the same effect. Same shit happened with SMN and look how that nerf turned out...



SMN is pretty fucking horrible now, relatively speaking.


Relative to what- When it was totally broken? Currently it's one of the most useful and flexible jobs for endgame. I'm not really sure what your argument is on this one.
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Wolffhardt
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Louiscool wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Louiscool wrote:

I wish someone was as blindly faithful to me as Wolffhardt is to the idea that RNG wasn't broken.


It was broken for over a year and a half. Ammo just didn't count as TP at all. What a silly bug.


I believe everything that is broken should be fixed, so you're talking to the wrong guy when you do stupid thought experiments of like, "If you're going to fix this, then you have to fix this!!!!!" ---- I agree. Get on it. You didn't "catch" me. Fix it all.



I believe you're still confused on the state of RNG.

You keep quoting me with previous posts.... with things that I still believe and apply to this situation.

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