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 Post subject: Re: Treasure Hunter?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:38 am 
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Therin wrote:
As Kazen said, TH definitely works like a debuff rather than just being on the hate list. You have to directly act on the enemy. However one action should apply the highest level of TH you have equipped. There also seems to be a range aspect to it. If a monster wanders too far from the THF, like in Dynamis, they seem to lose their TH effect (not sure what the distance is -- maybe 20 units?).

It's definitely important to make sure the THF has acted on the mob recently (in case the mob has wandered off or the THF has died, for example) and is still within range of it when it dies.

There are still some superstitions that people claim to believe on Nasomi, such as THF kill and whatnot but I don't believe any of that.


If this is the case, I wonder if TH affects the drop rate if the thief 1-shots a mob. Anecdotal, but whenever I kill something in one hit, I tend to get fewer drops. I don't have anywhere near enough tests or examples to prove this, however.


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 Post subject: Re: Treasure Hunter?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:12 pm 
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Treasure hunter seems to help alot on this server.


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 Post subject: Re: Treasure Hunter?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:10 am 
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Also does feint work and is it exploiting to use it for TH. Like if you wait to use it until end of the fight because tool tip says adds to TH.

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 Post subject: Re: Treasure Hunter?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:19 am 
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I believe feint increased the chance where you would get TH increases after the TH update. It shouldn't add any TH on here. TH1 trait. TH2 trait. Thfs knife and AF2 hands. That is all you need


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 Post subject: Re: Treasure Hunter?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:59 pm 
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Nekozuko wrote:
Also does feint work and is it exploiting to use it for TH. Like if you wait to use it until end of the fight because tool tip says adds to TH.


I had a lot of luck applying feint to mobs before they die when it first got fixed and I subscribed to the theory for a long time. After doing it enough times with and without, I don't truly think it does anything. I do still do it though and often joke with my ls thfs coming to tag stuff that they should too because a mechanic such as treasure hunter is always going to leave us with a degree of superstitions and confirmation bias's so when someone says why? The answer is often "Well why not?"

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 Post subject: Re: Treasure Hunter?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:49 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
Nekozuko wrote:
Also does feint work and is it exploiting to use it for TH. Like if you wait to use it until end of the fight because tool tip says adds to TH.


I had a lot of luck applying feint to mobs before they die when it first got fixed and I subscribed to the theory for a long time. After doing it enough times with and without, I don't truly think it does anything. I do still do it though and often joke with my ls thfs coming to tag stuff that they should too because a mechanic such as treasure hunter is always going to leave us with a degree of superstitions and confirmation bias's so when someone says why? The answer is often "Well why not?"



Superstition is a crazy thing. When the cap was 55 in Aion, you'd effectively have a group of brazilians verbally warning you that you'd be blacklisted from the server community if you looted a bad but valuable vendor ring off the first boss of a specific dungeon. They, as a group, believed that looting this particular item had a powerful negative effect on the rare loot that dropped later in the dungeon.

Insane!


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 Post subject: Re: Treasure Hunter?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:09 pm 
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Ase wrote:
As a blu who regularly /thf on hnm and such, I strongly believe this to be the case. Coincidence, superstition or truth, I err on the side of caution


I've seen this written somewhere as well (can't find it now) and after /THF'ing at KV, Khim and Faf, think there might be something to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Treasure Hunter?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:50 pm 
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Avellion wrote:
If this is the case, I wonder if TH affects the drop rate if the thief 1-shots a mob. Anecdotal, but whenever I kill something in one hit, I tend to get fewer drops. I don't have anywhere near enough tests or examples to prove this, however.

I noticed this on retail but not on nasomi.
It always seemed like whether you got exp from a mob heavily affected the drop rates.

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