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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:54 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
mello wrote:
No one is going to tell you. In fact, people go out of their way to delete relevant information on the wiki and spread misinformation as much as possible. You'll have to make friends with an NM experienced camper in game, or camp enough to gather the information for yourself. Sorry, but someone who camps an NM giving you that NM's information if the same as giving you money from their pocket, because you would then be competing against them.

Report any instances of this happening if you remember.


Aren't wiki's supposed to have a record of all data entry and removal and require users to sign up to be contributors?

If yes - then why are you asking for proof of something that already exists?

If no - then it's not a wiki and shouldn't ever be referenced by players.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:30 pm 
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bengeeman wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
mello wrote:
No one is going to tell you. In fact, people go out of their way to delete relevant information on the wiki and spread misinformation as much as possible. You'll have to make friends with an NM experienced camper in game, or camp enough to gather the information for yourself. Sorry, but someone who camps an NM giving you that NM's information if the same as giving you money from their pocket, because you would then be competing against them.

Report any instances of this happening if you remember.


Aren't wiki's supposed to have a record of all data entry and removal and require users to sign up to be contributors?

If yes - then why are you asking for proof of something that already exists?

If no - then it's not a wiki and shouldn't ever be referenced by players.

Something can exist without the right people being aware of it to fix it. That's what I'm asking for reports for. If someone removed a bunch of stuff from the wiki to hide information from others, then unless people go and look for that, no one will know. No one really moderates the wiki, so reporting that would be helpful.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:55 pm 
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bengeeman wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
mello wrote:
No one is going to tell you. In fact, people go out of their way to delete relevant information on the wiki and spread misinformation as much as possible. You'll have to make friends with an NM experienced camper in game, or camp enough to gather the information for yourself. Sorry, but someone who camps an NM giving you that NM's information if the same as giving you money from their pocket, because you would then be competing against them.

Report any instances of this happening if you remember.


Aren't wiki's supposed to have a record of all data entry and removal and require users to sign up to be contributors?

If yes - then why are you asking for proof of something that already exists?

If no - then it's not a wiki and shouldn't ever be referenced by players.



you mean... someone should actively sit through and read every single edit made to see if anything nefarious is going on.. instead of just asking people to report such a thing?

look.. I give Nabutso crap, but some of y'all are legitimately retarded.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:03 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
bengeeman wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Report any instances of this happening if you remember.


Aren't wiki's supposed to have a record of all data entry and removal and require users to sign up to be contributors?

If yes - then why are you asking for proof of something that already exists?

If no - then it's not a wiki and shouldn't ever be referenced by players.

Something can exist without the right people being aware of it to fix it. That's what I'm asking for reports for. If someone removed a bunch of stuff from the wiki to hide information from others, then unless people go and look for that, no one will know. No one really moderates the wiki, so reporting that would be helpful.


This is another one of the stupid things you're asking. YOU CANNOT PROMOTE COMPETITION THEN ASK PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR COMPETITIVE EDGE. If they remove it from the wiki... well its a public forum. If you dont want that, then you need to lock it down. Otherwise it's on YOU to find it out, not on US to report it.

Be proactive, not reactive. Didn't Nas specifically go over this in one of his streams? How he decided it would be better to change the issue, rather than the player.

Its like putting in a monster you dont want ppl to kill.. but then they find some way to kill it anyway so you.... oh wait.

Just take the loot out the pool or change it to different shitty items. Problem solved. Then you wouldn't have to worry about removal of items you dont want in.


Now for the helpful stuff!

locodoco wrote:
RaynoK wrote:
What if it is an NM that you can not sell the drop or trade or bazaar?
Would they help then?,
I would really like to get a pilgrim's wand from the crow in W/Sarutabaruta, but to no avail as I hear it is a buggy NM.

Could or would someone be willing to help with that maybe?.
Thanks

The few NM's I've checked after maintenance have been up.
It's probably harder to find one that isn't.
According to older threads, Nun is up. Same goes for tortoise shield NM, Dobsonfly, and jelly ring.


I've heard/seen Pilgrim wand NM is only after server reset, may not be up right away, maybe a few PH and it spawns.

I cant comment on Dobson, since I've never done it, but I have done both Tortoise Shield and Jelly Ring and I can say that they have very similar spawn conditions as retail. Especially Tortoise, only pops at night, etc. I can also say that Shii is almost right next to the Jelly Ring NM, and not in his actual place on retail.

Confirmed no Army's Paeon V in the game at the moment.
Confirmed no Hellion in the game (Rare/ex scythe drop)

Edit: Ose is also different spawn conditions, but is documented well in the NasWiki
Valkrum Emp, LeapingLizzy and Hoo Mjuu have more placeholders than usual.
Sharp-Eared is here... and I've heard multiple reports that its similar, but not the SAME. I experienced this one and couldn't get to pop after I tried for a while. Gave up and bought the Nobles Ribbon
Lots of ppl dont think Yara Ma Yha is on Nasomi but they are, and took me way shorter to get to pop.
There's also monsters in here like the Highlander Lizard that drops immortal molt but the molt recipe doesn't seem to work.

#nasomi'd


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:10 pm 
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Klic wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
bengeeman wrote:

Aren't wiki's supposed to have a record of all data entry and removal and require users to sign up to be contributors?

If yes - then why are you asking for proof of something that already exists?

If no - then it's not a wiki and shouldn't ever be referenced by players.

Something can exist without the right people being aware of it to fix it. That's what I'm asking for reports for. If someone removed a bunch of stuff from the wiki to hide information from others, then unless people go and look for that, no one will know. No one really moderates the wiki, so reporting that would be helpful.


This is another one of the stupid things you're asking. YOU CANNOT PROMOTE COMPETITION THEN ASK PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR COMPETITIVE EDGE. If they remove it from the wiki... well its a public forum. If you dont want that, then you need to lock it down. Otherwise it's on YOU to find it out, not on US to report it.

Be proactive, not reactive. Didn't Nas specifically go over this in one of his streams? How he decided it would be better to change the issue, rather than the player.

Its like putting in a monster you dont want ppl to kill.. but then they find some way to kill it anyway so you.... oh wait.

Just take the loot out the pool or change it to different shitty items. Problem solved. Then you wouldn't have to worry about removal of items you dont want in.


Now for the helpful stuff!

locodoco wrote:
RaynoK wrote:
What if it is an NM that you can not sell the drop or trade or bazaar?
Would they help then?,
I would really like to get a pilgrim's wand from the crow in W/Sarutabaruta, but to no avail as I hear it is a buggy NM.

Could or would someone be willing to help with that maybe?.
Thanks

The few NM's I've checked after maintenance have been up.
It's probably harder to find one that isn't.
According to older threads, Nun is up. Same goes for tortoise shield NM, Dobsonfly, and jelly ring.


I've heard/seen Pilgrim wand NM is only after server reset, may not be up right away, maybe a few PH and it spawns.

I cant comment on Dobson, since I've never done it, but I have done both Tortoise Shield and Jelly Ring and I can say that they have very similar spawn conditions as retail. Especially Tortoise, only pops at night, etc. I can also say that Shii is almost right next to the Jelly Ring NM, and not in his actual place on retail.

Confirmed no Army's Paeon V in the game at the moment.
Confirmed no Hellion in the game (Rare/ex scythe drop)

Edit: Ose is also different spawn conditions, but is documented well in the NasWiki
Valkrum Emp, LeapingLizzy and Hoo Mjuu have more placeholders than usual.
Sharp-Eared is here... and I've heard multiple reports that its similar, but not the SAME. I experienced this one and couldn't get to pop after I tried for a while. Gave up and bought the Nobles Ribbon
Lots of ppl dont think Yara Ma Yha is on Nasomi but they are, and took me way shorter to get to pop.
There's also monsters in here like the Highlander Lizard that drops immortal molt but the molt recipe doesn't seem to work.

#nasomi'd


No one gives a fuck if someone deleted shit. Nab said if YOU care, and YOU want something done about it.. then YOU need to tell someone about it.

Christ.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:18 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:

No one gives a fuck if someone deleted shit. Nab said if YOU care, and YOU want something done about it.. then YOU need to tell someone about it.

Christ.


lol no. Nab said and you can scroll back up to read it verbatim. He first said "Report any instances of this happening if you remember" and then "That's what I'm asking reports for".

So thats kind of a general "report shit" vibe. But hey. You're the one with a "PhD in communications" right? ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:34 pm 
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Klic wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:

No one gives a fuck if someone deleted shit. Nab said if YOU care, and YOU want something done about it.. then YOU need to tell someone about it.

Christ.


lol no. Nab said and you can scroll back up to read it verbatim. He first said "Report any instances of this happening if you remember" and then "That's what I'm asking reports for".

So thats kind of a general "report shit" vibe. But hey. You're the one with a "PhD in communications" right? ;)


He said it in response to someone complaining about shit getting deleted...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:35 pm 
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Klic wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:

No one gives a fuck if someone deleted shit. Nab said if YOU care, and YOU want something done about it.. then YOU need to tell someone about it.

Christ.


lol no. Nab said and you can scroll back up to read it verbatim. He first said "Report any instances of this happening if you remember" and then "That's what I'm asking reports for".

So thats kind of a general "report shit" vibe. But hey. You're the one with a "PhD in communications" right? ;)


Again, from someone who also gives Nab shit, how are you not saying the same thing? He's saying if YOU know that people are abusing the wiki, (which Mello claims he does, unless hes just talking out his ass) then go ahead and report them. Nab is just letting people know that this is potentially a bannable offense for players, and not something to be taken lightly.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:44 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
bengeeman wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Report any instances of this happening if you remember.


Aren't wiki's supposed to have a record of all data entry and removal and require users to sign up to be contributors?

If yes - then why are you asking for proof of something that already exists?

If no - then it's not a wiki and shouldn't ever be referenced by players.



you mean... someone should actively sit through and read every single edit made to see if anything nefarious is going on.. instead of just asking people to report such a thing?

look.. I give Nabutso crap, but some of y'all are legitimately retarded.


:lol: @ wolffhardt calling someone else retarded


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:12 am 
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bengeeman wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
bengeeman wrote:

Aren't wiki's supposed to have a record of all data entry and removal and require users to sign up to be contributors?

If yes - then why are you asking for proof of something that already exists?

If no - then it's not a wiki and shouldn't ever be referenced by players.



you mean... someone should actively sit through and read every single edit made to see if anything nefarious is going on.. instead of just asking people to report such a thing?

look.. I give Nabutso crap, but some of y'all are legitimately retarded.


:lol: @ wolffhardt calling someone else retarded


Look, I shared a sped class with wolff and he was always better at it than me, but he's 100% right here. And when you're being called retarded by him? You done fucked up.


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