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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:04 pm 
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mello wrote:
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30mil isnt a good deal. 30mil is pretty much stealing from someone. Though, I doubt someone who has the means of getting a KC would fall for a dumb price like that.


I like my plebs to be polite.


I’m sure you’d love newer players to be polite... and naive sheep for you to abuse for your own profit. That’s how in-game economies tend to work, just like real life economy works.


Is my offer low? Yes. Did I buy expensive stuff by offering low amounts before? Yes.

I'm referring to the fact you clearly have no clue about either a) value of a KC right now b) limited amount of buyers. If it was that good of a deal or my offer was highway robbery, it would have sold already.

Your boyz over at RFK forgot that people tend to talk and the fact that they are shopping it around with ever-changing offers and asking someone if he would take it for 44.5M is not a good look. It makes people believe that other offers are not at 45. Maybe they can ask Locke about how to run a smooth sale process.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:15 pm 
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I hear that Ranger patch really upped the value on KC.


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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:59 pm 
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Camper wrote:
mello wrote:
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I like my plebs to be polite.


I’m sure you’d love newer players to be polite... and naive sheep for you to abuse for your own profit. That’s how in-game economies tend to work, just like real life economy works.


Is my offer low? Yes. Did I buy expensive stuff by offering low amounts before? Yes.

I'm referring to the fact you clearly have no clue about either a) value of a KC right now b) limited amount of buyers. If it was that good of a deal or my offer was highway robbery, it would have sold already.

Your boyz over at RFK forgot that people tend to talk and the fact that they are shopping it around with ever-changing offers and asking someone if he would take it for 44.5M is not a good look. It makes people believe that other offers are not at 45. Maybe they can ask Locke about how to run a smooth sale process.


Of course, if you low-ball enough, your offer will eventually get accepted once you find someone who's ignorant of real value or knows but is impatient/desperate to liquidate.

You refer to me having no clue about A and/or B, but just above that, you admit to your offer being low.

I may not know many things, but I do know for sure that a Kraken Club is worth way more than a relic. The supply of relics is unlimited requiring one to simply trade in currency which is abundant and easily purchased. The supply of KCs however rely on very low drop rates from very few sources, and for those KCs that do drop to be put for sale rather than kept. Yes relics are rare/ex and KC are not, but the difference in both current supply and generation of new supply is also very very different.

There's no rush to sell one of, if not, the most valuable item in the game. Low-balls will come and go until the proper price is met.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:05 pm 
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mello wrote:
Camper wrote:
mello wrote:

I’m sure you’d love newer players to be polite... and naive sheep for you to abuse for your own profit. That’s how in-game economies tend to work, just like real life economy works.


Is my offer low? Yes. Did I buy expensive stuff by offering low amounts before? Yes.

I'm referring to the fact you clearly have no clue about either a) value of a KC right now b) limited amount of buyers. If it was that good of a deal or my offer was highway robbery, it would have sold already.

Your boyz over at RFK forgot that people tend to talk and the fact that they are shopping it around with ever-changing offers and asking someone if he would take it for 44.5M is not a good look. It makes people believe that other offers are not at 45. Maybe they can ask Locke about how to run a smooth sale process.


Of course, if you low-ball enough, your offer will eventually get accepted once you find someone who's ignorant of real value or knows but is impatient/desperate to liquidate.

You refer to me having no clue about A and/or B, but just above that, you admit to your offer being low.

I may not know many things, but I do know for sure that a Kraken Club is worth way more than a relic. The supply of relics is unlimited requiring one to simply trade in currency which is abundant and easily purchased. The supply of KCs however rely on very low drop rates from very few sources, and for those KCs that do drop to be put for sale rather than kept. Yes relics are rare/ex and KC are not, but the difference in both current supply and generation of new supply is also very very different.

There's no rush to sell one of, if not, the most valuable item in the game. Low-balls will come and go until the proper price is met.


I said low,you called it stealing from somebody. /tell me in game if you want to learn some more about why KC prices are dropping

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:05 pm 
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I just wish we had a time machine to go back to 2006 and tell yourself that you'd eventually be playing a version of this game because it's close to the game you're playing in 2006.... but that you'd be offended if someone offered you a relic for KC. loooooooool

Anyways - It's absolutely the right of the seller to not accept an offer that they deem to be a low-ball. Basically, equal to the right of the buyer to offer the price they deem to be reasonable and commiserate of the value the item provides them.

It's the beauty of the game.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:11 pm 
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It just goes back to what Locke said, "People without a Kraken Club in their inventory tend to think that its only worth that. :lol:"

I'm sure if Camper were selling a KC, his comments would be 180 degrees. He'd be asking me to /tell him in game to learn why KC prices are rising and why I should buy quickly before the price is out of reach.

I guess we'll see how much duped shit gets wiped in the next wave...and how that impacts prices.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:13 pm 
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Pretending the inverse of what Locke said isn't also true is... foolish, at best.

Welcome to FFXI. Sellers want more, and buyers want to spend less.

In general, I'd expect KC to drop in price and relic to rise in price on the larger scale over the coming 6 months~.

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:25 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Pretending the inverse of what Locke said isn't also true is... foolish, at best.

Welcome to FFXI. Sellers want more, and buyers want to spend less.

In general, I'd expect KC to drop in price and relic to rise in price on the larger scale over the coming 6 months~.



More like, welcome to society/reality. I totally agree. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:52 pm 
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Didn’t bother reading everything but a wtb kraken club request shouldn’t be a place for forum discussions -.-

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Kraken Club
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:55 pm 
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PasqualeOmega wrote:
Didn’t bother reading everything but a wtb kraken club request shouldn’t be a place for forum discussions -.-


Thanks for your invaluable input

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