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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:37 am 
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What are you talking about? You showed me no proof. Look up the body on wiki. The body does not raise barspells. Thats the only proof you gave. So in your case, your right. The body does not raise barspell numbers. But that is not what the body is suppose to do. And if you all think this is what the body does, then its good you think it doesn't work, because you are not using it correctly.

I am done trying to educate you.

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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:41 am 
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I edited my post to fix the image.

You're an embarrassment to all WHMs.


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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:49 am 
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I edited my post to fix the image.

You're an embarrassment to all WHMs.


Your ss proves nothing. You equipped your healing set, then took two stones to the face before even casting barstone, then it did the same to you, then did even more after. Your barstone did not activate when it casted on you. For efficient testing, you cant just get hit twice and call it done. You legit spent 1 minute with barstone on and took two -gas to the face and expected to get results? I mean unless you casted before hand. This is why I said a wyrm is best testing. You get a good 40-120 min of fighting. You get plenty of data with barstones on with the body on and with the body off, not just with the body on and expecting results. You have no numbers to compare to besides what it casted on you without barspells on, so it just looked like to me, the mob nuked you un resisted, which means your testing did not prove a thing.

The fact that your testing proved nothing does not mean I am an embarrassment to whm's. It means you don't give 2 shits about your class, your gear, or anything like this. And the fact that you think I don't care, when I am trying to educate you on testing properly, and to show you the usefulness of the item you apparently have, and you still think the results are bad, then that is a you problem.

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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:16 am 
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84 and 110 unresisted.
84/1.10 rounds off to 76, 110/1.10 is exactly 100.
84/1.15 rounds off to 73, 110/1.15 rounds off to 96.

Consistent, it works!

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Level 75 WHM/BLM vs. Level 100-105 Boulder Eater, unresisted damage:

w/o barpsell or w/unrelated barspell: Stonega III 417, 459 because of Earthsday's +10%
w/barstonra as WHM75 with capped barspell merits: Stonega III no testing done, but expected 417, 459 because of Earthday's +10%
the same, plus blessed briault: Stonega III 417, 459 because of Earthdays +10%

417 and 459 unresisted.
No testing done for 1.10, but expected damage would be 389~ and 417~.
417/1.15 rounds off to 362-363, 459/1.15 rounds off to 399-400.

Rounding is wonky on this server, but those numbers don't add up with my test, so it proves that it doesn't work. The real question is when it DOES work is if the MDB you gain is cumulative with regular MDB or multiplicative.

I like how you're so adamant about trying to "educate" me about my own job, when you have provided zero data aside from "experience".

Why are you assuming that the "MDB" only activates when "Barstonra" activates? The effect is on me, it's already active.

If I took less damage, that's because the Earth Resist/Earth MEVA I had allowed me to resist it, which wouldn't have been accurate, which is why it needs to be UNRESISTED damage, hence the consistency.

Not only are you an embarrassment to WHMs, but you're an embarrassment to your LS as well. No offense to your LS.

Edit: I think you need to go back and learn what MDB does and how it works, because it's obvious you don't.


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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:24 pm 
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Should've made two pairs of mitts. No debate to be had about how good they are. The body is a super meh piece that noone would care that much about even if it did work properly. It's for skillups.

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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:31 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
Should've made two pairs of mitts. No debate to be had about how good they are. The body is a super meh piece that noone would care that much about even if it did work properly. It's for skillups.


After reading all of this, this is really the only conclusion.

The body almost certainly doesn’t work, except it’s hard to tell because it’s not a great item anyways.

As for why I wanted to buy it originally, it was mainly that I believe I could sell it for more than Khol would be able to.

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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:42 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Aeroo wrote:
Should've made two pairs of mitts. No debate to be had about how good they are. The body is a super meh piece that noone would care that much about even if it did work properly. It's for skillups.


After reading all of this, this is really the only conclusion.

The body almost certainly doesn’t work, except it’s hard to tell because it’s not a great item anyways.

As for why I wanted to buy it originally, it was mainly that I believe I could sell it for more than Khol would be able to.


And now we'll never know. It's sold. Not sure how to close this topic b/c I just can't seem to figure it out...


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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:17 pm 
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Skitles wrote:
Blessed body does not raise barspell if you think it does. It is suppose to raise the MAD of the barspell.

Example, your barspell is at 459, that wont change. With the body, youll get about a 4%-5% more magic defense against stone attacks. So you'll see the difference when the element is casted on you.

So to test it efficiently, youll need to fight something that is going to cast a magical element on you, and see how much average damage it does with and without the body to see if there is around a 4% damage decrease with it on than off.


stonega iii isn't a stone attack?

EDIT: I guess he changed the picture you were replying to, nevermind.


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 Post subject: Re: WTS-Blessed Briault
PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:27 pm 
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seventythree19 wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Aeroo wrote:
Should've made two pairs of mitts. No debate to be had about how good they are. The body is a super meh piece that noone would care that much about even if it did work properly. It's for skillups.


After reading all of this, this is really the only conclusion.

The body almost certainly doesn’t work, except it’s hard to tell because it’s not a great item anyways.

As for why I wanted to buy it originally, it was mainly that I believe I could sell it for more than Khol would be able to.


And now we'll never know. It's sold. Not sure how to close this topic b/c I just can't seem to figure it out...


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