I just simply believe everyone should be innocent until proven guilty. And the burden of proof should be on the accuser.

...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.

Some of the discourse surrounding the LGBT community here is cringe as fuck and reminds me of 12 year old kids I went to middle school with almost 20 years ago. What year is it? If gay people still give you the heebie jeebies in 2019, it seems like you're the one looking for a safe space.

are people supposed to bend over backwards for less than 2% of the population? If someone doesnt want to associate with a certain person respect it, dont opine about how you are morally better than someone else and that other person needs a "safe space."

...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.

I disagree... Largely because no evidence is provided just she he said. I don't know anything about the LS other it's named Troll, the accuser or accused. Maybe something happened maybe not, we can't pass judgment on what someone said with not a shred of evidence.

Scenario A:
Let's say we're camping a HNM together as a LSand we're both due for rare drop. We both allowed to lot on the item but you win, I ask for you to pass but you decline. I get salty quit the LS, and then goto the forums and say you had said homophobic comments, joke and anti LGBTQ statements. Are you not allowed to defend yourself? Do people not need to hear your side?

Scenario B:
You find an article that is anti LGBTQ and are pretty against it. People ask you what's in so you provide a quote. I sign on or come back from afk while you're making the quote and due to log cutoff I didn't catch the first portion. I get upset about the quote believing it was your actual beliefs and I quit the LS before you explain and post on the forum. Do you have the right to defend your self?


Scenario C

Someone says you must include transwomen/transmen when looking for dates, but someone else want to settle down and have kids. Or perhaps Lesbian who wants to date biological women (there is actually arguments on this in LGBTQ circles). You say let's not have this discussion on this here or maybe you state your opinion I disagree on the comment. Do you have the right to defend your statement?


Scenario D

You actually said something horrible and anti LGBTQ as this is what you grew up on. I see the comment and call you out on it and quit. I post on the forums. If you actually did make the slurs you should be shamed and ridiculed.

The last one is where I see the largest merit to not hear both sides, but in my opinion it is a bad leg to stand on. Without any evidence it can be scenario A B C D. Not to mention if he's exposed to different view points s/he'll learn that community doesn't tolerate this kind of stuff and perhaps change.


I just simply believe everyone should be innocent until proven guilty. And the burden of proof should be on the accuser.

are people supposed to bend over backwards for less than 2% of the population? If someone doesnt want to associate with a certain person respect it, dont opine about how you are morally better than someone else and that other person needs a "safe space."

im sorry are the 2% of the population the lgbtq community, or the people that think what someone else wants to sleep/what bathroom they use has any impact on their life whatsoever?

...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.