Not to mention MPKing and risking a ban.

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I'm saying that people attempting any non-instanced content should understand the minimum requirements to reasonably attempt it, not just go in half-cocked for an outcome 95% of other players would rate as a failure and waste of time. Even more so when it is a situation like Bubu where there are only a limited number of runs each day. If it was instanced, I'd say sure go ahead and knock yourselves out struggling instead of putting in the time and work properly preparing. Since it isn't, you end up eating into literally everyone's time and productivity by removing 2 hours from the day when you can't even clear the zone to begin with. This isn't elitism, its common sense and common courtesy. All I suggested was actually taking the time to prepare yourself and your group before jumping in, but sure go ahead and be selfish instead. As I said, I have no horse in the race, it was just my gut reaction.

Think it's been established that Dirac stopped right next to 30 slept mobs, and stood there waiting to die. His own pt claimed he could kite them indefinitely, why stand so close? His own fault 100%. All I know is I'm going to form my own pt when DB goes into bubu and finish the unclaimed mobs. No cheating, no griefing, just using server mechanics to my advantage. It'll be another "split" run. If there's anything so wrong with that, lemme know Nasomi, thanks.

Nasomi designed the server and dynamis like this, so bitch to him to fix it if you wanna waste more of his time.

Actually, it doesn't show him stopping. It shows some crabs from your slept group waking up and going after him. Where he was in his kite path at the time the mobs woke up is independent of the fact it was your action sleeping the mobs and then not generating sufficient enmity to pull them off that resulted in his death.

Edit: Apparently there's another angle on the incident that was recorded when people get home from work.

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Yeah doesn't really show him at all... your camera work needs improvement parzo

ok, so you are going to target a specific player and make sure they are excessively deprived of the ability to experience various gameplay features.

just want to make sure i heard that correctly.

whooosh

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Look bud, your scare tactics won't work on me. When I feel really cheated I get super stubborn. It's gonna take Nasomi himself to say this is against rules. Otherwise I'll be looking for your runs to join in on. You got nothing on me or anyone in my group, and the whole server won't change my mind on it. Cuz like you guys said, only one person's opinion really matters. Our lord and savior, Nasomi. Redeem me from these infidels.

Here's where it gets grey to me. What you are saying is factually correct except for the mpk part. I don't think it's mpk. Nas clearly adjusted the claim system months back so that you can only claim the number of mobs equal to your party size. The sleeping of the mobs was done with the intent of claiming and killing yellow mobs. If an NM goes yellow while slept and I attack it to claim it, then it kills the previous person who had threat, did I mpk them?

LOL. Seriously, just stop, this is getting to be too much now.

Dreamlands dynamis is the way it is here because of shitty DSP code from years ago that Nas has had to tweak and hotfix occasionally over the years. Its not "design", its lack of time to bring it in line with era. The Bubu farm method was only conceived years ago as a means to expedite relics after numerous glitches/exploits with city Dynamis zones and beastmen mobs in particular were addressed. Its a player-led byproduct, not any sort of intended design.