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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:29 pm 
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You mean ghosting the 3 Kuwaiti players who wanted to 6 man it for fun in order to...GASP! go to a doctor's appointment that I told them about and apologized for missing the attempt? The NERVE!

Those same Kuwaitis you guys spent time courting to leave with you, then turned on them when they didn't buy your BS and stayed loyal to Deadwing, forcing your small crew to assimilate NMInc and Eminence after you shit-talked their players in Alpha for a year?

Again, not surprising you feel this way given your struggles with the concept of loyalty. Everything I did I cleared with DW first, not your little circle jerk club, because he was back by that point, you just didn't like it.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:35 pm 
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Chain of command 101, if a sergeant orders a private to storm the wrong building, the blame falls on the sergeant for giving the order, not the private for carrying it out.

Even in Fid's parent analogy, you can't hold the kid responsible if they got permission from parents who weren't on the same page.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:43 pm 
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Deadwing wrote:
Chain of command 101, if a sergeant orders a private to storm the wrong building, the blame falls on the sergeant for giving the order, not the private for carrying it out.

Even in Fid's parent analogy, you can't hold the kid responsible if they got permission from parents who weren't on the same page.


The best part is he and Gov had no problem at all being my officers in Zantetsuken and learning nasomi dynamis pulls from me (credit to valacar for teaching me) while we were all also in Opulence. Zant killed a few HNMs with permission too, where was this outrage then? Oh right, it benefitted you guys at the time, gotcha!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:48 pm 
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Epyon wrote:
You mean ghosting the 3 Kuwaiti players who wanted to 6 man it for fun in order to...GASP! go to a doctor's appointment that I told them about and apologized for missing the attempt? The NERVE!

Those same Kuwaitis you guys spent time courting to leave with you, then turned on them when they didn't buy your BS and stayed loyal to Deadwing, forcing your small crew to assimilate NMInc and Eminence after you shit-talked their players in Alpha for a year?

Again, not surprising you feel this way given your struggles with the concept of loyalty. Everything I did I cleared with DW first, not your little circle jerk club, because he was back by that point, you just didn't like it.


And yet if I had bad relationships with those players you claim I shit-talked, who are now some of my closest friends in this game, how did we ever build such a successful linkshell together? Your argument is really poor. The loyalty claim is something that makes zero sense to me and you have no evidence to support it. Hope this forum thread makes you feel like you're still relevant in some way though.

BTW I learned dynamis pulls from dynamisbums, not you, but Zantetsuken was a great dynamis shell. Lots of fun doing those runs. But no, I never killed any HNMs with that shell, and I wasn't a leader in Opulence anyways. Not like Alpha.

What happened to this though? Times have changed. December 23, 2016:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:59 pm 
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Deadwing wrote:
Chain of command 101, if a sergeant orders a private to storm the wrong building, the blame falls on the sergeant for giving the order, not the private for carrying it out.

Even in Fid's parent analogy, you can't hold the kid responsible if they got permission from parents who weren't on the same page.


TL;DR, you tried to come back suddenly after a 8 month absence and run things like the king of Vana'diel. Gov and I didn't appreciate it, so here's what we were told after 8 months of leadership:

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Now that's quality leadership right there.

You should be a legend on this server Deadwing. All the content you've provided has led to countless hours of enjoyment by so many people over the years. It's too bad your vision for a server-wide LS coming together to kill AV with mercenaries didn't work out. We disagreed with that and how you handled leadership, and we left. Hope you're happy with how things worked out, because we definitely are.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:00 pm 
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Okay so those times you followed me on pulls and angles on RNG were just for funsies then?

I actually do have respect for your in-game accomplishments and over time you have done more than DW in terms of clearing content. My problem with you as a group has always been how you betrayed and demonized Deadwing, who has done more for the growth and stability of this server overall than any save Nasomi, literally 95% of endgame coding, with your bullshit lies and revisionist history. Which in turn is likely why new content has slowed to a crawl these past few years.

My problem with you personally is the elder statesman act you put on when really you're just a two-faced hypocrite too caught up in his own bias and ego to see the shitstain left behind him. Had you just parted ways and NOT turned his name into server cancer, I'd have no issue with you. I have the issue because I am LOYAL to my friend. I don't know how much clearer I can make it.

Gov at least admits he's an asshole and owns it.

P.S. Its easy to stop talking shit about your new "friends" once you need them to get anything done. You simply shifted the shit-talking onto the Kuwaitis who refused to follow you.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:08 pm 
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Epyon wrote:
Okay so those times you followed me on pulls and angles on RNG were just for funsies then?

I actually do have respect for your in-game accomplishments and over time you have done more than DW in terms of content. My problem with you has always been how you betrayed and demonized Deadwing, who has done more for the growth and stability of this server overall than any save Nasomi, literally 95% of endgame coding, with your bullshit lies and revisionist history. Which in turn is likely why new content has slowed to a crawl these past few years.

My problem with you is the elder statesman act you put on when really you're just a two-faced hypocrite too caught up in his own bias and ego to see the shitstain left behind him. Had you just parted ways and NOT turned his name into server cancer, I'd have no issue with you. I have the issue because I amLOYAL to my friend. I don't know how much clearer I can make it.

Gov at least admits he's an asshole and owns it.


See my previous post. Deadwing is a terrific coder, a great player, and a shitty LS leader. All these things can exist independently. Maybe there is a reason people don't like him. Could it be the 33 Peacock Charms stockpiled before the Argus spawn rate fix? Could it be the Suzaku fix coming conveniently after he became the server's first 100 CC, farming it extensively with RDM+THF dual box for Siren's Hair? Could it be his refusal to abide by the account limit feature, once introduced? Could it be the fix to currency drops in Dyna-Jeuno after his excal was finished? Let's check out another conversation from 2016:

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The guy should be a legend on this server, but he shot himself in the foot with stuff like this. You can't have it both ways. Not that I'm going to change your mind, but this has been fun going through old screenshots and memories. I'm going to class, will check back later for the Halloween surprise.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:19 pm 
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Dang.. go on..

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:21 pm 
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Governor wrote:
Dang.. go on..


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:40 pm 
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Epyon wrote:
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“Enlisted”....

“Fact checker”....

Please, for the love of God, go on......


Not my show, just wait patiently til Halloween pumpkin.

While I have you here though, Aperture once told me that after I posted in the Alpha RL pics tab on the old doc, you said in voicechat that if you were into dudes you'd hit it, so what's that about? :oops:


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