You say a lot, but essentially you just keep saying you want endgame without having to commit to it. FFXI endgame has always been a commitment. If you want casual shit, go play WoW or something with auto groups and 5 minute dungeons.

The content feels shitty and cheap if a rag-tag pickup group is able to do it the same as a dedicated group of endgame players.

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Or don't use a static cost at all. Make the tier1 pops cost something like--- 20 imperial gold pieces (pulling that out of my ass). Then let the market figure out the value.

This also makes the market for the items rate limited. You can only create as many imperial golds as there are people exping. At first there would be a major influx, but then as people use up ISP, it would go away.

It's also a good way for new players to earn gil using ISP -- not unlike using conquest points to buy/sell gear.

I’d hate to see you not participate, but I guess that settles it though.

Thanks for weighing in.

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yikes

Was curious how the math might work out on this.

T1 Pop Gil Cost: 450k
All seals drop chance: 30%

Would need an average # of attempts to be 333 to obtain seals to pop all 3 T4 ZNM's. Cost: 150M Gil
Average # of attempts to obtain a single PW *seal: 1111 Cost: *500M Gil
*Full PW Set: 3333 attempts; 1500M Gil

*(Forgot to include 3 T5 Seals needed in calculation)

I'd probably make the chances of drop higher on T4, to make it less punishing.

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yikes

Im a fan of making them 100% drop, so a PW popset would cost 9m to access all 9 of the T1s at 1m each. That's really not bad at all for linkshell activities. Just dont make it any less than half of that imo.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Editable spreadsheet for anyone wanting to do drop chance and T1 pop cost scenarios.

Please don't assume what I want when I've made it perfectly clear.

ZNMs are supposed to be content for all players, it's not restricted to the Endgame mindset only, and trying to push it in that direction only hurts players who don't have time for that.

Some ZNMs are easy, some are hard. All of them have unique mechanics (which probably won't all be coded properly). If you think they should only be killed by dEdIcAtEd, eXpErIeNcEd, or sKiLlEd players to feel special, you do you. You want to feel special? Kill PW. The players who are capable of doing T1-4 won't care, at least they have something to do, unrestricted.

Move all sky pops to Ground Kings.
Move all sea pops to Wyrms.
Move all ZNM pops to ToAU Kings.

Imagine sitting around waiting for something to pop against hundreds of players to get any progress done. So MuCh FuN.

Don't stuff too much into one thing. We already have that, we don't need any more.

I've been here long enough to have participated in every single content released so far, so don't say I'm not commited. I'm already past all that. Sue me for saying I'd rather see official content meant for everyone not turn into "for these players only" content.

let's compromise and go like.. 75-80%. I think there should be a chance it doesn't drop it, even if making it too low makes it punitive. If you leave it at 100% though, I think the T1s have to be at least 1m

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yikes

Again, using imperial currency in the "cost" I think may be a better approach.

It allows those that don't want to spend gil can just exp their way to popsets. It also allows us to easily determine the value of the pop items through free market.

But it seems that's too many variables for people...