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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:41 am 
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The argument wasn't about preference it was about running out of things to do.

tokitaki wrote:
Grahf wrote:
And then eventually everyone will do everything in TOAU and we have to use the next expansion. And then the expansion after that. Ad infinitum.

StickyWicket wrote:

It sounds like the general consensus, and the view from Nas is enjoy the content while you can, and take a break when your bored, while watching for a different private server that supports all 75 content.

I love the Nas server, and think he does a great job. My only negative comment is this 1 stance that he knows what the players want, and it is not ToAU. No one knows what the players really want which is why typially there are teams of GM's and devs constantly tweaking the code. Also every game ever made that has the ability to release an expansion does so to encourage people to stay that little bit longer. By saying no to ToAU, which, could possible work in a couple years Nas server becomes akin to Super Mario Bros. Yes it is super fun to pull out, and play through, but after a couple plays it goes back in the box stored again for years.

Don't let the Nas FFXI end up in my box of old game. Think of the old players who have finished the content, and are ready to retire, and the new players who won't have as much help to play, and leave in frustration. Run the server how you wish, but please don't pretend we're cookie cutter sprites that all have the same goal.

I don't read the stories anymore, or care about nitpicking story line, and plot twists. I just want to have fun with a bunch of random strangers beating up monsters, collecting loot, and enjoying the FFXI I remember through THICK smudged glass. ToUA does have benefits obv or it never would have been implemented.

If the stance is no ToAU then take it completely out. Delete everyone's ToAU jobs/gear, and move on as a CoP server. Being on the fence with ToAU is what is causing these debates.


Most people don't want anything past ToAU though. That's a pretty silly argument.


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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:00 am 
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Grahf wrote:
The argument wasn't about preference it was about running out of things to do.

tokitaki wrote:
Grahf wrote:
And then eventually everyone will do everything in TOAU and we have to use the next expansion. And then the expansion after that. Ad infinitum.



Most people don't want anything past ToAU though. That's a pretty silly argument.



My point still stands, most people on the server do not want WoTG regardless of it's content.
They understand that game balance from WoTG onwards took a dive and don't want to see that here.

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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:22 am 
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I fail to see the point of this thread. You're not listing reasons why the expansion doesn't belong on the server. Instead, you're just rattling off your personal opinion of the content and then belittling others for having a differing opinion. Can't see what this was supposed to accomplish, if anything was even meant to be accomplished outside of posting a self-important thread about nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:44 pm 
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A reason for what? I'm not the one who claimed you constantly need a new expansion because you run out of things to do

Kubisnaxx wrote:
Grahf wrote:
And then eventually everyone will do everything in TOAU and we have to use the next expansion. And then the expansion after that. Ad infinitum.


Slippery slope for an argument? That logic is absolutely horrible. Think of another reason please. I want to see some good ones since all of them thus far have been atrocious


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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:46 pm 
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Because the server is " based around the 2005 era of the game" and there was no TOAU then

Oddin wrote:
I fail to see the point of this thread. You're not listing reasons why the expansion doesn't belong on the server. Instead, you're just rattling off your personal opinion of the content and then belittling others for having a differing opinion. Can't see what this was supposed to accomplish, if anything was even meant to be accomplished outside of posting a self-important thread about nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:56 pm 
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Grahf wrote:
Because the server is " based around the 2005 era of the game" and there was no TOAU then


Except a lot people joined this server with the idea that ToAU was going to be part of the server because thats how it was advertised, look at nasomi's original post on BG https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/119551-Nasomi-Community-FFXI-Server

"Nasomi Community FFXI Server - 2007 Era"

"Experience, gil, drops, death, jobs, quests are as you'd expect to see them during the CoP/ToAU era."

And Im pretty sure it said things like that in other places like the website originally. So people that have been here for a while joined with it being advertised as a 2007 CoP and ToAU server.


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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:51 pm 
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Things change

Sly wrote:
Grahf wrote:
Because the server is " based around the 2005 era of the game" and there was no TOAU then


Except a lot people joined this server with the idea that ToAU was going to be part of the server because thats how it was advertised, look at nasomi's original post on BG https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/119551-Nasomi-Community-FFXI-Server

"Nasomi Community FFXI Server - 2007 Era"

"Experience, gil, drops, death, jobs, quests are as you'd expect to see them during the CoP/ToAU era."

And Im pretty sure it said things like that in other places like the website originally. So people that have been here for a while joined with it being advertised as a 2007 CoP and ToAU server.


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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:34 am 
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Sly wrote:
Grahf wrote:
Because the server is " based around the 2005 era of the game" and there was no TOAU then


Except a lot people joined this server with the idea that ToAU was going to be part of the server because thats how it was advertised


Yup.


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 Post subject: Re: Why I Hate TOAU
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:42 am 
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Grahf wrote:
wonder why there are no monk tanks in qufim?


I tanked as WHM/WAR in Qufim...


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