except the ss is refutable. what if despot had just popped and aggro'd chess? maybe vivix was hiding a groundskeeper he was fighting? or what if vivix had 50 hp and needed to flee/hide to survive? impossible to show intent here.

Bigjoey's MPK IS irrefutable based on that SS, though, no?

I'm fairly new to the game and still trying to understand some things so forgive my ignorance....but in what situation would fleeing for 6 seconds and then hiding be a better alternative to just hiding if you caught aggro on something? This is an honest question as I plan to level THF. If something did aggro you, wouldn't you just hide right there and run away while still invisible?

Fleeing away and then hiding is useful of you wanted to depop something or drag something away from a party to buy a little time. Also useful for certain pulling situations where you need to create distance so you don't get smoked.

In this case is looks a lot like MPK and I'm sure Nas looked at the logs preceding this screenshot to get a better idea of what happened.

Typically, you'll use that sequence of events to MPK people. GL with THF!

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Sometimes you also need to get out of re-aggro range before hiding so they don't pick you back up - though in this case I don't know what aggro style the mob has so not sure if relevant. IIRC hide breaks any aggro, but only hides you from sight, not sound, so if it aggros sound and you're still in range when you hide it'll just pick you back up, or something like that.

Edit: because I suck at forum posting.
Hide can be used to cover anything but scent. As for vivix using Flee then hiding, he likely tried to bring despot away from chess and when he hid, depot ended up aggroing chess.

And mobs that track by scent (like scorpions and slime) you need to have deodorize (be it a cast by mage or using an item), run into water or raining weather before use hide (and be outside of their agro range). So often times you need to pop flee to run away to get distance to use item or party member to cast deodorize on you to use hide (not even necessary as well).

Also for mages, bard or anything with a sleep you can sleep the mob that tracks by scent. Then you'll deodorize yourself and the person who has aggro/hate. For bees, tigers you cast invisible and for slimes and scorpions you cast sound, then move at least 5.5 distance away (I would say 5 but I could have sworn I regain agro at 5.0 but never at 5.5). You can literally continue to xp near the slept mob and it'll depsawn if it was pulled far enough away or act like a normal returning mob.

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Not true you need to cast or use an item that gives effect of deodorize or be in raining weather before you use hide. Water/streams supposed to have the same effect but it's not always working.

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It took us 5 pages to get to the point of someone suggesting #wellactually Vivix was trying to save Chess lmao.

Ya'll really got an issue with Occam and his razor, because nah.. He likely was just trying to do what he did, which was MPK chess.

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What did I say wrong there? You can avoid all forms of aggro and de aggro anything BUT scent, the amount of times I’ve ran by skeletons while yellow is actually funny. And no, I did not have a form of sneak on.

I’m just saying it’s a possibility, neither you or I were there. All we have is a log to go by. Believe what you will, nothing I’m gonna say will change that.