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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:58 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
As someone that owns something worth a good amount of money, if someone that helped me with that had talks with others where they said I had to go and "its over", as if they have a say when something is over and when I need to go.....

oof

I don't think you lacked candor at all though, I think you were just describing the situation.. Which is fair. Now, though? Yikes.


It's almost as if context matters, and this screenshot was taken out of context.. Huh. I wonder where I've heard that before :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:00 pm 
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Inecroloot wrote:
Starbright wrote:
As someone that owns something worth a good amount of money, if someone that helped me with that had talks with others where they said I had to go and "its over", as if they have a say when something is over and when I need to go.....

oof

I don't think you lacked candor at all though, I think you were just describing the situation.. Which is fair. Now, though? Yikes.


It's almost as if context matters, and this screenshot was taken out of context.. Huh. I wonder where I've heard that before :roll:


Context does matter. Like, the context of the situation that made Setzor make his post here matters. The context of a lot of things matter.

I said, if you've got some context to change the meaning of a fairly straightforward and clear cut screenshot.. by all means. Saying "I didn't actually mean what I said" isn't adding context. It's adding regret.. Which is his right, it's not like it was a contract. It just doesn't change what was said.

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:00 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
setzor wrote:
Inecroloot wrote:

Context matters quite a bit, and the picture is lacking it. Not to mention the general Nasomi population not knowing the interworkings of Eden, it's community, nor it's staff.

EDIT - Hell, the screenshot itself says "Planning a transfer of power with godmode after this shit blows over".


For all this talk of toxicity, taking that discord screenshot and manipulating it out of context is about as toxic as it gets.

Nobody is stealing anything. There is no controversy here. Me posting here isn't damage control. Of all the things i've let slip publicly, this out of context screenshot doesn't even breach the top 1000.

Sometimes people just don't want the pressure that the threat of legal trouble (real or not) brings, especially when you are a highly risk adverse person.

I may have lacked candor with my phrasing, but I can assure you, this is about as drama free of a situation as your drama hungry minds can muster.


As someone that owns something worth a good amount of money, if someone that helped me with that had talks with others where they said I had to go and "its over", as if they have a say when something is over and when I need to go.....

oof

I don't think you lacked candor at all though, I think you were just describing the situation.. Which is fair. Now, though? Yikes.


People sure are desperate for a controversy around here :D. You don't know the context, you can't know the context, you won't know the context. There is no drama between him and I, and there won't be no matter how hard people try. He knows how I feel about this situation, more than any of you people will ever understand. When I say he has to go, I'm speaking from his standpoint not mine.

So read this wrong and dissect every word with your own intent attached, it will never be anything more than what it was.


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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:02 pm 
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setzor wrote:
Starbright wrote:
setzor wrote:

For all this talk of toxicity, taking that discord screenshot and manipulating it out of context is about as toxic as it gets.

Nobody is stealing anything. There is no controversy here. Me posting here isn't damage control. Of all the things i've let slip publicly, this out of context screenshot doesn't even breach the top 1000.

Sometimes people just don't want the pressure that the threat of legal trouble (real or not) brings, especially when you are a highly risk adverse person.

I may have lacked candor with my phrasing, but I can assure you, this is about as drama free of a situation as your drama hungry minds can muster.


As someone that owns something worth a good amount of money, if someone that helped me with that had talks with others where they said I had to go and "its over", as if they have a say when something is over and when I need to go.....

oof

I don't think you lacked candor at all though, I think you were just describing the situation.. Which is fair. Now, though? Yikes.


People sure are desperate for a controversy around here :D. You don't know the context, you can't know the context, you won't know the context. There is no drama between him and I, and there won't be no matter how hard people try. He knows how I feel about this situation, more than any of you people will ever understand. When I say he has to go, I'm speaking from his standpoint not mine.

So read this wrong and dissect every word with your own intent attached, it will never be anything more than what it was.


Like I said, saying "i didn't mean what I said" isn't adding a context. It's fine to do, and it might matter.. but saying the words you used don't accurately reflect what you actually meant isn't someone lacking context.

It's just your screenshot getting leaked and you expressing regret, which I'm sympathetic to.

If you don't mind when you leave, can you take all of the people banned from here that live here still, and don't actively play here, with you? It's weird and probably something they should talk to a therapist about.

Best of luck with the server, and the fake? C&D, and the hostile takeover and what not. It's a fun server. I hope you guys get it stood back up.

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:11 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
setzor wrote:
Starbright wrote:

As someone that owns something worth a good amount of money, if someone that helped me with that had talks with others where they said I had to go and "its over", as if they have a say when something is over and when I need to go.....

oof

I don't think you lacked candor at all though, I think you were just describing the situation.. Which is fair. Now, though? Yikes.


People sure are desperate for a controversy around here :D. You don't know the context, you can't know the context, you won't know the context. There is no drama between him and I, and there won't be no matter how hard people try. He knows how I feel about this situation, more than any of you people will ever understand. When I say he has to go, I'm speaking from his standpoint not mine.

So read this wrong and dissect every word with your own intent attached, it will never be anything more than what it was.


Like I said, saying "i didn't mean what I said" isn't adding a context. It's fine to do, and it might matter.. but saying the words you used don't accurately reflect what you actually meant isn't someone lacking context.

It's just your screenshot getting leaked and you expressing regret, which I'm sympathetic to.

If you don't mind when you leave, can you take all of the people banned from here that live here still, and don't actively play here, with you? It's weird and probably something they should talk to a therapist about.

Best of luck with the server, and the fake? C&D, and the hostile takeover and what not. It's a fun server. I hope you guys get it stood back up.


That's the thing, there's no regret, I never regret anything I say.

Nothing i said wasn't already known by the majority of people in that group, the 1 Nasomi guy who happened to be in there quickly tries to gin up a juicy "Eden Controversy" by screenshotting me, attempting to paint it in the worst light.

My problem is that gullible idiots read this shit and of course it has my name attached so i'm getting messages like "OH WHAT IS THIS DRAMA OMG YOU GUYZ"

There is nothing here. I'm sorry drama seekers, your idiot friend here played you.


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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:12 pm 
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Seems like an Eden Kupo d'Etat


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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:13 pm 
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setzor wrote:
Starbright wrote:
setzor wrote:

People sure are desperate for a controversy around here :D. You don't know the context, you can't know the context, you won't know the context. There is no drama between him and I, and there won't be no matter how hard people try. He knows how I feel about this situation, more than any of you people will ever understand. When I say he has to go, I'm speaking from his standpoint not mine.

So read this wrong and dissect every word with your own intent attached, it will never be anything more than what it was.


Like I said, saying "i didn't mean what I said" isn't adding a context. It's fine to do, and it might matter.. but saying the words you used don't accurately reflect what you actually meant isn't someone lacking context.

It's just your screenshot getting leaked and you expressing regret, which I'm sympathetic to.

If you don't mind when you leave, can you take all of the people banned from here that live here still, and don't actively play here, with you? It's weird and probably something they should talk to a therapist about.

Best of luck with the server, and the fake? C&D, and the hostile takeover and what not. It's a fun server. I hope you guys get it stood back up.


That's the thing, there's no regret, I never regret anything I say.

Nothing i said wasn't already known by the majority of people in that group, the 1 Nasomi guy who happened to be in there quickly tries to gin up a juicy "Eden Controversy" by screenshotting me, attempting to paint it in the worst light.

My problem is that gullible idiots read this shit and of course it has my name attached so i'm getting messages like "OH WHAT IS THIS DRAMA OMG YOU GUYZ"

There is nothing here. I'm sorry drama seekers, your idiot friend here played you.


Like I said, I understand that you wish you had used different words. Saying that someone has to go, and that it's over for them, isn't exactly friendly. You can say that's not drama all you would like, it just doesn't will it into existence.

No one painted it in any light. It's a screenshot of something you said. I'm sorry it got leaked, I guess.

I don't think anyone's seeking drama... I don't believe a Nasomi player even made the thread, as is usually the case when Eden crap comes up here. Like I said, best of luck with it all.


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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:31 pm 
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Sharkbite wrote:
Both nasomi and eden are 100% Shit, run by children and i am still hoping square realizes thousands of people want / would play and would pay for a REAL Classic server that WORKS CORRECTLY

See you in jeuno

i wont be there

PS No one sends a letter they are sending a C&D they just send the C&D Because theres no official court filing for a C&D most legal firms just make it in wordpad with company letterhead, you are all stupid children



please no one get your legal advice from an FFXI private server forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:24 pm 
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Sharkbite wrote:
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PS No one sends a letter they are sending a C&D they just send the C&D Because theres no official court filing for a C&D most legal firms just make it in wordpad with company letterhead, you are all stupid children

what?


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 Post subject: Re: Well then...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:30 pm 
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Julia wrote:
Sharkbite wrote:
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PS No one sends a letter they are sending a C&D they just send the C&D Because theres no official court filing for a C&D most legal firms just make it in wordpad with company letterhead, you are all stupid children

what?


he thinks the common practice of sending a digital copy of a C&D, preceding the certified copy, is in actuality not common for some reason.


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thats actually a funny post star



im always accepting new fans

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