XooZQ wrote:
Aeroo wrote:
My ninja will put yours to shame in a merit party and i dual box shit nin and rdm without ever touching ninjutsu nukes because my melee set is not gimped. You're over here at lvl 50ish swinging on beetles for 20 with your katanas dude. You're clearly geared for nin nukes and not for melee. It's cool if you wanna be a Dashie. He's the only one who ever swore by ninja nukes. People didn't like him much either.
Barely ever missing on IT+ means my melee set isn't gimp either. I suppose you want me to drop the ACC and go for ATTK, which would obviously result in a much slower TTK. I saw this coming: "You intentionally gimped your melee and buffed your nukes to skew the results!" I even popped a sushi just to make things fair. Show me some proof that NIN's are supposed to do noticeably more melee damage at that level, or your point is moot. Zon has 0 merits btw, so there's that.
Are you actually brain-dead? Can you read? In my very first response, I said all mobs/content from 40~60, or "Ni to Jin", which is basically the same thing. This is the window we're talking about. Are you with me Aeroo? Is anyone home? Here's the truth: I'm geared for both melee
and nukes. Arguing with you two is like arguing with a flat-earther after showing them video that the Earth is actually round.
This thread is like 50 fucking pages now so I have no idea if what I'm responding to is even still the point of discussion, and I'm responding to several points you made, not all of them in the quoted post, but:
I used the ele wheel a significant portion of the time from 40 and above on my Ninja.
Here's the truth: It made no difference and did negligible damage. If I didn't have money to burn, it would have made no sense to do it.
I had very very good gear and was eating pizza +1 the whole time, but NIN was the first job I leveled to 75 on my alt so I had no merits. You need to balance your acc and your attack for optimal melee damage - don't eat sushi for XP mobs. And you also need to do the math even when you're under acc cap - if you hitting for X more damage on ever swing results in a higher number than hitting more frequently for low damage, you might want more attack even when not acc capped.
I've got max ninjutsu merits and go back and do level cap content sometimes. Even with int gear and these merits, outside of the specific situation of back tanking (like this, or minotaur) the ele wheel spam damage is trash. The only reason it might be worth doing on nasomi is if you can get it off in between attack rounds - on nas, casting will pause an attack going off if the delay timer counts down to 0 when you're casting, but it does not pause the delay timer, so things you can do in between the timer starting and finishing are essentially free actions.
But against a good DD, especially once they start getting penta, guillotine, rampage, etc., you're going to have trouble keeping hate. Even in the 60s with hauby +1, pcc, sniper's +1, offhanding a KC, spamming Jin, there were times where big pentas or guillotines would pull off me. Or they'd have TP at the start of a fight and I wouldn't. When you're after 30-40k xp/hr in that level range, you're not having DD back off so you can build up hate. They're going to need /nin regardless. Even if you're using ele wheel. Even if you've got a THF.
And yes, I know you said ni to jin, but you're still getting resisted a ton, even with int gear, and you're more likely to fuck up and pause your swing or melee in nuking gear in those levels. It's not worth it.
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