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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:22 pm 
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Nas should fix the no loot aspect of the 15 or 20m time limit(depending on ownm level) While obviously stealing the mob through a mistake in nas's coding is moronic to put it lightly, there is an issue here of being able to hold ownms past the point they wont drop loot anymore. That is griefing in my eyes, though not in the rules' eyes. Fun memory, deft. Man, ahriman is such a little turd. Instead of no loot, I think ownms should go into rage when the time limit is exceeded. No more enfeebles, no more regular damage taken. So jackasses who wanna hold the thing long enough so that noone can get loot can be punished and killed without nas having to police it. Either way, the 4 hour rule on mobs doesn't work for ownms because it is super simple to just hold those mobs endlessly with a single rdm and the time limit on the kill is 20 minutes, but the only reflection of that is in the loot pool. Make em rage.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:32 pm 
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For sure, i love killing an ownm and getting no loot because the ownm hasn't reset properly or has been bugged due to an alliance touching it

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:19 pm 
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Munny you mean the 7 words you said was going off? “You would kick me” I Said Yes and “Great Leader” then you quit. Bro at least don’t post SS’s shit talking trying to look hard. Went off on me Lol


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:04 pm 
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cthalupa wrote:
Jearheal wrote:
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Libra has spent at least 20 hours of his life accusing RFK of claim botting.

Interesting how people who cheat spend so much time accusing those more successful than them of cheating. Must be because they can't imagine people being better than them without cheating too.


I lol'ed at this. You did the same thing to zigma when he started beating you.

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An RFK THF got hate on KB after Yes used the zone to tank it for over an hour and a half. He used hide while KB was hitting him. If you've spent over an hour not tanking a mob, you're kinda at fault there.

RFK did not get the KB. TS claimed it and killed it.


Your THF went back to town to change to THF/WHM spammed cure3 on himself and used Hide as soon as KB turned to him. 100% with intent to steal. Fact that Yes hadn't killed it for 1h+ doesnt matter for shit. e. g. this thread.

I even saw another RFK THF trying to steal hate and flee with the KB on the same week/week after. Probably to bring it to someone that can claim it this time after Hide so you guys dont just give it to someone else ;)
But oh well no hard proof.

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RFK has never used the AoE exploit to steal a claim.

We snatched Aspids that went unclaimed twice while Yes was dealing with large amounts of adds. Shield bash was the action used to get claim for RFK in both cases.

In the first case, Yes used a sleepga on their adds and regained claim on Aspid. This is what lead me to confirm AoEs steal claim and lead to me reporting it to Nas and in the bug thread.

In the second case, we gave the Aspid back to Yes for reasons unknown to me. They've stolen Aspid from us before when it bugged and we had only 1 add with 3 parties full of 6 people, so I don't really understand why we gave it back when they screwed things up themselves. But whatever, I wasn't there, and some people are apparently nicer than I am.


I was there, that was 100% an intentional steal from RFK with 1 add brought in. Aoe'd the add to claim steal just like it in the case discussed in this thread.
It was given back because everyone present understood what had happened.

I gotta commend you guys for always comming forward in forum posts. You PR is amazing in that regard. Always ready to accuse the ones you need accused, derailing the threads that need derailing, and closing accusations againts you with facts/memes/lies. The use of the latter just doesn't sit well here.


We're hardly the only people that think something is fishy with Zigma, and we've provided evidence as to why. He might be legit. But either way, we've never cheated to try and get back at him, like was done in this thread.

THF can be /whm to heal themselves from meteor spam when the zone is tanking. Not like any other subjob is useful for them on HNMs when they're only their for TH. You gonna start accusing every thf/whm you see in DA healing themselves up after hurricane wings? We certainly didn't get the KB claim. Maybe we were colluding with TS?

Nope. Okamigirl's shield bash was what was used to claim both times we took Aspid from Yes. We did not use an AoE to steal claim either time. It was given back because Kulgan feels like we should all get along better and that if we gave it back everyone else would start not trying to steal shit too. I think he's naive in that regard.

Edit: Removed a comment that wasn't really pertinent to the discussion at hand.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:05 pm 
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Again, your talking about two different aspids lol

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:53 pm 
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In the first case, Yes used a sleepga on their adds and regained claim on Aspid. This is what lead me to confirm AoEs steal claim and lead to me reporting it to Nas and in the bug thread.



We gave back the second Aspid to Yes, despite it being the second Aspid in a row that they failed to hold claim on because they had too many adds for them to deal with. The first one they took back (unintentionally, I assume) with the exploit.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:55 pm 
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I can confirm we gave back that 2nd Aspid (idk what happened with the first one). I made the call on the spot, as it felt like the right thing to do at the time. "But they'd never do that for us!", "They stole from us before!", and many other comments were made after that. But the part that others don't see is how many people actually sent me tells praising good behaviour and sense of community - and this was from Yes, Triumph and RFK people alike. I saw hope there.

Another of the reasons I made that call was because I'm friends with part of Yes' leadership. I gave them my word that we'd give back Aspid if a certain third LS tried shenanigans to steal it from them. At the time of the steal, I did not have visibility on what had happened, and I assumed it was because that certain LS had been dicks as expected. It didn't help that I wasn't on Discord at the time - that was the only mistake I will admit I made that night. The call should have been made after discussing between officers, which we didn't do because I decided unilaterally not to. That was wrong, and already dealt with internally. Regardless, I slept like a baby that night, because I think we took the high road.

Don't get me wrong: I don't expect anything to change, as that'd be, to quote Cthalupa, too naive of me. But hey, don't mind me if I try, and I hope my friends in competing LSs will honor what happened at VoS that one day.

Does this make you my Jorah, Ash?

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:22 pm 
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Trist wrote:
Again, your talking about two different aspids lol


lol so whats the difference? between the aspid your talking about and the aspid, Sly is talking about the you guys sleepga claim?


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:24 pm 
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RFK like to be white knights in forums but in game they are just scums. Everyone knows it, so you guys have to stop pretending to keep your double morality.
And if im not talking the truth let's just make a poll about it.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 1:18 pm 
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Who is this, auroademon or something?

We didn't sleepaga claim lol, that was someone from a different ls, likely on accident

nvm its libra, what a suprise lmao

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