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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:55 pm 
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Titanslayer wrote:
It's literally the same groups that have been abusing the level sync bug and using AoEs on a high level char to level groups of lower levels. It happens in Gusgen, it happens in Ordelles, there's a reason these guys are in super obscure locations and anon all the time. Looking at the people involved, it does seem to be 'primairily' chinese players, just stating fact. The more this goes on results in more and more reports to Nas from players and distracts from other important server issues. This shit is just obnoxious at the point, it's been made clear by the latest round of bans that included characters that have been observed down there that this is not ok. I don't care about the vrtra clip, but between monopolizing pug camp and using these method, certain players are cranking out maats cap jobs in 2-4 days.
Shit happens at HNM, as a linkshell you need to rely on you linkshell thinking on the fly, I think its a far cry for mpk here though. As if people haven't been wrongfully flailed at any wyrm due to things not going smooth, whether via player or server stability.


if u think maats cap is what they are after u couldn't be more off the mark

more often than not there's always real money involved and focused, which is why even if risk of getting caught it is worth doing, pretty much everything can be sold and p2w culture is rampant among chinese mmo players to this day. unfornately ppl on a private server for 20 year old ancient game still resort to paying. plus, Nas alone it is very hard to track them all. banned some alt 75 account will appear in matters of weeks

the real irony is this server kinda needs these rmts to stay in shape if they get all perma-banned the acutal population won't look much better than to say eden now


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:39 pm 
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Ash wrote:
Kazen wrote:
Camper wrote:
Manteel is useless on Nasomi.


Shut up bro!!! I'm enjoying the shitshow.

Still waiting for the final word on Baxian and co. with MF.


Baxian has been warned. We made it adamantly clear to the Chinese that any further questionable behavior will result in immediate kick. You can quote me on that if anything pops up in the future.

@exelyon: you're trying to reason with members of the Zigbot crew. C'mon, guy. I give you props for taking it this far, but you may want to call it a day.


Ahh there it is. Ash reveals his motive for MPKing. Thanks bro.

edit: Also whoever said they're keeping them around for kclubs hit the nail on the head. MF would be nothing without the Chinese carrying them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:19 pm 
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Though technically I think wyrms would still fall under:

Any action that deliberately causes a monster to attack another player character, or MPK-related action

In practice I don't think someone kiting, or even just trying to wipe in a safe place for themselves, has any obligation to keep it away from other players within the wyrm's draw-in domain. They're high level mobs in high level areas; you know what you're getting yourself into afking there.

I wouldn't stake my account on intentionally mpking people repeatedly at Vrtra; but I think hitting all the checkboxes for using a wyrm to MPK beyond all reasonable doubt is pretty hard to do.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:28 pm 
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wcromu wrote:
Titanslayer wrote:
It's literally the same groups that have been abusing the level sync bug and using AoEs on a high level char to level groups of lower levels. It happens in Gusgen, it happens in Ordelles, there's a reason these guys are in super obscure locations and anon all the time. Looking at the people involved, it does seem to be 'primairily' chinese players, just stating fact. The more this goes on results in more and more reports to Nas from players and distracts from other important server issues. This shit is just obnoxious at the point, it's been made clear by the latest round of bans that included characters that have been observed down there that this is not ok. I don't care about the vrtra clip, but between monopolizing pug camp and using these method, certain players are cranking out maats cap jobs in 2-4 days.
Shit happens at HNM, as a linkshell you need to rely on you linkshell thinking on the fly, I think its a far cry for mpk here though. As if people haven't been wrongfully flailed at any wyrm due to things not going smooth, whether via player or server stability.


if u think maats cap is what they are after u couldn't be more off the mark

more often than not there's always real money involved and focused, which is why even if risk of getting caught it is worth doing, pretty much everything can be sold and p2w culture is rampant among chinese mmo players to this day. unfornately ppl on a private server for 20 year old ancient game still resort to paying. plus, Nas alone it is very hard to track them all. banned some alt 75 account will appear in matters of weeks

the real irony is this server kinda needs these rmts to stay in shape if they get all perma-banned the acutal population won't look much better than to say eden now


Does eden have rmt?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:29 pm 
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It is a bug that even if an ally/party full wipes they still retain claim on the mob until everyone on the hate list is killed. I'm really surprised that the people in this thread have never experienced that because its actually common in the endgame scene which may show inexperience. Fafnir\Nidhogg does this during rage and has happened dozens of times since I've been on the server. While it may be more difficult to show during Fafhogg because of the lag, # of people, and limited number of sprites that can be loaded.

I have experienced this 100% on Tiamat with a low number of people. During a super early morning Tiamat Yes pulled Tiamat with like 5 or 6 people when they saw we were about to pull. They pulled over to us and ended up wiping, 100% all were dead and then Tiamat started attacking us and it remained purple. It wasn't until we completely wiped that it went white. All we could do we just cast heals on ourselves which we did for a min or two but realized it wasn't going white so we let ourselves die. After we wiped it went white and reset, then the rest is history.

I think the lesson learned is the same rules at Dragon's Aery, don't go into the pit unless you're prepared to fight. Don't go into Vrtra's room unless you're ready to fight. At the same time, Ash appearance is everything, if you get aggro on something running to a group can be misconstrued as MPK, should avoid that in the future...if you get aggro just run to an empty space and die.

Now if you were doing something in Vrtra room that was not related to Vrtra and someone dragged Vrtra over on top of you and got you killed, that's a different story altogether. Take the lesson and move on.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:16 pm 
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Miku wrote:
Tex wrote:
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We need the Chinese players' kclubs for our AV attempts soon, so no action will be taken against them at this time


lol

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:53 pm 
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What a dumb argument. I solved this shit on page 1 already. If you're hanging out in the spawn area, you cannot be mpk'd. Go outside the door next time dummies.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:10 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
What a dumb argument. I solved this shit on page 1 already. If you're hanging out in the spawn area, you cannot be mpk'd. Go outside the door next time dummies.


This, coupled with this:

Camper wrote:
Manteel is useless on Nasomi.


I still think we're focusing on the wrong video here.


Edit: What happened to "we don't play with cheaters" Ash?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:42 pm 
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Exploiting cheap Chinese labor for the benefits they provide at the expense of morals, psychopathic middle easterners on their payroll. Starting to draw more parallels with Misfortune and the US government by the day!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:01 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
What a dumb argument. I solved this shit on page 1 already. If you're hanging out in the spawn area, you cannot be mpk'd. Go outside the door next time dummies.


You must have not read the part where the server disconnected twice during kills big brain.

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