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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:31 pm 
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Well that finally helps clear up a lot then, so then the said person is targeting the chinese players for what reason now? Like is this general racism, or did this person get banned for some weird reason and is taking it out on somebody? Because I think everyone knows "fuck ur mum; fack nasami's mom; i fucked ur mum" is like textbook dogfackr talk from back when he was doing this exact same style of griefing at HNM camps. Now I kind of just want to know "why"

Or maybe Bigjoey has an alternate personality where he's an angry 5th century mongolion who was wronged by a chinese person. You just never know what is going to happen next!


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:00 am 
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Tetra69 wrote:
So just curious since people are automatically claiming that its been proven that this person is 100% NA timezone other than CN. I'm not saying it is a chinese player, but how hard would it be for a group of people that have been banned for mass using VPNs, to just spoof another timezone on their clock so that it shows up in a NA timezone? Again, not saying it is 100% CN, but I feel like saying the timestamp is proof its a NA player is a bit naive.


Yes like i said before, NA can give thousands and one crap reasons to defend the NA... but when it comes to chinese, any evidence proving the hacker is NA are bullshit/naive/pointless/baseless or whatever words you guys can come out with.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:12 am 
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farm1 wrote:
Tetra69 wrote:
So just curious since people are automatically claiming that its been proven that this person is 100% NA timezone other than CN. I'm not saying it is a chinese player, but how hard would it be for a group of people that have been banned for mass using VPNs, to just spoof another timezone on their clock so that it shows up in a NA timezone? Again, not saying it is 100% CN, but I feel like saying the timestamp is proof its a NA player is a bit naive.




Yes like i said before, NA can give thousands and one crap reasons to defend the NA... but when it comes to chinese, any evidence proving the hacker is NA are bullshit/naive/pointless/baseless or whatever words you guys can come out with.


Except that the majority of threads on this forum about cheaters are aimed at a specific group of NA players.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:22 am 
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Please save us the melodrama farm1, people are just as skeptical - if not more - of the suspicious NA people, and you can easily find numerous threads detailing tons of names like Ascar/bigjoey/zigma/frosty/bemont etc etc at the kind of shady stuff they get up to. Sure some people may just hate the chinese, but at the same time, you're not doing your friends any favors with shoddy evidence. It's honestly making me want to disagree with you on principal after you immediately go back to "yAlL dOnT tHiNk tHe SaMe AboUT thE AmEriCanS" when, in actuality, we witch hunt ourselves far worse than the chinese players.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:28 am 
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Tetra69 wrote:
Please save us the melodrama farm1, people are just as skeptical - if not more - of the suspicious NA people, and you can easily find numerous threads detailing tons of names like Ascar/bigjoey/zigma/frosty/bemont etc etc at the kind of shady stuff they get up to. Sure some people may just hate the chinese, but at the same time, you're not doing your friends any favors with shoddy evidence. It's honestly making me want to disagree with you on principal after you immediately go back to "yAlL dOnT tHiNk tHe SaMe AboUT thE AmEriCanS" when, in actuality, we witch hunt ourselves far worse than the chinese players.



The CN community cannot defend themselves here because of their English. As such they always suffer in silence, everywhere they go, NA will shout "RMT is here".

I have to admit there are bad hats among the CN community, farming gil and selling it.. (glad that babara and group left this server).

But there are a bunch of genuine CN player as well who spent more time in game.. farming and making relics. Some are saving gil for Kraken Club or making their 2nd or 3rd relic. Due to latency issue, they chose to farm instead of NM camping

They treasured their account as we do.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:00 pm 
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farm1 wrote:
Tetra69 wrote:
So just curious since people are automatically claiming that its been proven that this person is 100% NA timezone other than CN. I'm not saying it is a chinese player, but how hard would it be for a group of people that have been banned for mass using VPNs, to just spoof another timezone on their clock so that it shows up in a NA timezone? Again, not saying it is 100% CN, but I feel like saying the timestamp is proof its a NA player is a bit naive.


Yes like i said before, NA can give thousands and one crap reasons to defend the NA... but when it comes to chinese, any evidence proving the hacker is NA are bullshit/naive/pointless/baseless or whatever words you guys can come out with.


Cant understand why Chinese are still playing this game if you believed that all these are
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bullshit/naive/pointless/baseless or whatever words you guys can come out with.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:05 pm 
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Tetra69 wrote:
Please save us the melodrama farm1, people are just as skeptical - if not more - of the suspicious NA people, and you can easily find numerous threads detailing tons of names like Ascar/bigjoey/zigma/frosty/bemont etc etc at the kind of shady stuff they get up to. Sure some people may just hate the chinese, but at the same time, you're not doing your friends any favors with shoddy evidence. It's honestly making me want to disagree with you on principal after you immediately go back to "yAlL dOnT tHiNk tHe SaMe AboUT thE AmEriCanS" when, in actuality, we witch hunt ourselves far worse than the chinese players.


I think the main issue we have with the Chinese players is that, we call out the cheaters if there is any within the English speaking community. That cannot be said to be the same for the Chinese community when they cheat. The Chinese will come out with all sort of
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to protect and defend their community. Much like what is going with the real world.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:40 pm 
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How about stop attacking the Chinese community and name the people by their screen name. Ya we call out ascar and the rest of the cheaters but we never refer to them as NA. Chinese for the most part do kick cheaters from their ls's or vpn's because it reflects on them more because yes there is a witch hunt on nasomi for Chinese players. The amount of racism I've seen toward CN players is sad and noone stands up for them. They don't even know english good enough to defend themselves here. Is there some bad ones of course! There are bad people everywhere. In fact I've yet to see an HNM group here without corrupt people in it and you all won't kick those members "Till nasomi proves they cheating" when you all know damn well who the cheaters are. Point is focus on fixing your own corrupt HNM groups before you go after a Chinese as a whole cause thats where most of this stems from and lets see who names pop up.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:08 pm 
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How about stop attacking the Chinese community and name the people by their screen name. Ya we call out ascar and the rest of the cheaters but we never refer to them as NA. Chinese for the most part do kick cheaters from their ls's or vpn's because it reflects on them more because yes there is a witch hunt on nasomi for Chinese players. The amount of racism I've seen toward CN players is sad and noone stands up for them. They don't even know english good enough to defend themselves here. Is there some bad ones of course! There are bad people everywhere. In fact I've yet to see an HNM group here without corrupt people in it and you all won't kick those members "Till nasomi proves they cheating" when you all know damn well who the cheaters are. Point is focus on fixing your own corrupt HNM groups before you go after a Chinese as a whole cause thats where most of this stems from and lets see who names pop up.


Um.... TS just kicked someone for cheating after evidence was found. They were banned only a few days later.

As for why people think there is a culture of cheating in China, things like this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... ating.html

I've been guilty of calling Chinese players RMT. That was after seeing them do the same gil making things over and over and not spending. I've also seen plenty of Chinese double-dipping dynamis and continue to do so even after informing the English speaking contingent that it was against the rules. I had met a few "good" Chinese players here on Nasomi but then they joined Checkmate and got banned.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:48 pm 
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I think its agreeable that Zelminar is one of the most hated people on the server hands down.

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