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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:36 am 
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Just started a few weeks ago and I obviously can't do the nicer loot BCNM's at higher levels.

I tried trading a Star Orb Lv 40 cap for both Royal Jelly and Undying Promise. Both ended up doing nothing. Kind of bummed right now as I spent a lot of time running around with no Airship access, and what looks to be a dead orb.

Anyone else have or had that problem?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:02 am 
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Some of them do work, but many of them don't. That's why the big dragon NMs exist in all of the zones, as replacements for BCNMs that don't work.

Sadly I don't think there is a comprehensive list of which ones work, but your orbs aren't useless, there are 40s that work. I believe Petrifying Pair is the most popular one that people do.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:44 am 
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Thanks for the reply!

I did some more digging and found this by luck: https://github.com/DarkstarProject/darkstar/issues/2782

I've seen the big dragons that you mentioned, but what exactly are they for?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:13 am 
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Gweivyth wrote:
Some of them do work, but many of them don't. That's why the big dragon NMs exist in all of the zones, as replacements for BCNMs that don't work.

Sadly I don't think there is a comprehensive list of which ones work, but your orbs aren't useless, there are 40s that work. I believe Petrifying Pair is the most popular one that people do.


Pet Pair = Level 30 orbs

Also check out WikiNAS. Some old content but still alot that is still viable.

There should be some heads up on installation instructions. Check here for things not in retail.

Like the new players spending CP on xp rings, to discover they dont work. One example :)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:41 pm 
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For your orb Under Observation should work here, or at least it used to. So I wouldn't toss it until you try.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:45 am 
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I was told these below work and do not work, however it needs conformation. I'll add comments to those who test them on nasomi and find out they do indeed work. If it is in bold and says Works on Nasomi it does indeed work. The other comments are speculation from the above BCNM40 post that a person linked to. I'll update them as people add them.

Level 20 Cloudy Orb
(20 Beastmen's Seals)
Charming Trio - Balga's Dais - Works
Crustacean Conundrum - Waughroon Shrine - Trade not accepted
Shooting Fish - Horlais Peak - Trade not accepted
Wings of Fury - Ghelsba Outpost- Works on Nasomi

Level 30 Sky Orb
(30 Beastmen's Seals)
Birds of a Feather - Waughroon Shrine - Bugged
Carapace Combatants - Horlais Peak- No option given
Creeping Doom - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Die by the Sword - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Petrifying Pair - Ghelsba Outpost- Works on Nasomi
Dropping Like Flies - Horlais Peak - works
Grove Guardians - Waughroon Shrine - No option given
Harem Scarem - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Let Sleeping Dogs Die - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Toadal Recall - Ghelsba Outpost -No option given

Level 40 Star Orb
(40 Beastmen's Seals)
Under Observation - Horlais Peak- Works on Nasomi
Undying Promise - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Royal Jelly - Waughroon Shrine-Trade not accepted
Royal Succession - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Factory Rejects - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Steamed Sprouts - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Tails of Woe - Horlais Peak-Trade not accepted
The Worm's Turn - Waughroon Shrine-Trade not accepted

Level 50 Comet Orb
(50 Beastmen's Seals)
The Final Bout - Waughroon Shrine-Trade not accepted
An Awful Autopsy - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Eye of the Tiger - Horlais Peak-No option given
Rapid Raptors - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Hostile Herbivores - Horlais Peak- Works
3, 2, 1... - Waughroon Shrine-Trade not accepted
Idol Thoughts - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Treasure and Tribulations - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted

Level 60 Moon Orb
(60 Beastmen's Seals)
Celery - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Shots in the Dark - Horlais Peak-Trade not accepted
Up in Arms - Waughroon Shrine- Works on Nasomi
Wild Wild Whiskers - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Amphibian Assault - Sacrificial Chamber-No option given
Brothers D'Aurphe - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Demolition Squad - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Dismemberment Brigade- Horlais Peak-Trade not accepted
Divine Punishers - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Grimshell Shocktroopers - Waughroon Shrine-No option given
Jungle Boogymen - Sacrificial Chamber-Works
Kindred Spirits - Throne Room-Trade not accepted
Legion XI Comitatensis - Chamber of Oracles-Trade not accepted

Atropos Orb
(30 Kindred's Seals)
Contaminated Colosseum - Horlais Peak-Works
Infernal Swarm - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Moa Constrictors - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Prehistoric Pigeons - Waughroon Shrine- Works
The Scarlet King - Chamber of Oracles-Trade not accepted

Clotho Orb
(30 Kindred's Seals)
Cactuar Suave - Chamber of Oracles-Trade not accepted
Come Into My Parlor - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Copycat - Waughroon Shrine-Trade not accepted
Double Dragonian - Horlais Peak-Works
Seasons Greetings - Balga's Dais- Trade not accepted

Lachesis Orb
(30 Kindred's Seals)
E-vase-ive Action - Qu'Bia Arena-Trade not accepted
Eye of the Storm - Chamber of Oracles-Trade not accepted
Operation Desert Swarm - Waughroon Shrine-Works
Royale Ramble - Balga's Dais-Trade not accepted
Today's Horoscope - Horlais Peak-Trade not accepted

Themis Orb
(99 Kindred's Seals)
Early Bird Catches the Wyrm - Balga's Dais-Works
Horns of War - Horlais Peak-Works
The Hills Are Alive - Waughroon Shrine-Works

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:10 pm 
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so is my understanding of OWNM's correct? If a BCNM is not working there will be a dragon NM in that zone w/ the same loot table?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:50 am 
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Pretty much. Your whole party syncs down to the correct level for the BCNM. Unfortunately they all have the same AI and moveset so it takes a lot of the fun out of it, but at least it's a way to get the items for now. If you are after ENM drops however, only one works and there are no way to get drops from the others atm.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:59 pm 
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Arx wrote:
Pretty much. Your whole party syncs down to the correct level for the BCNM. Unfortunately they all have the same AI and moveset so it takes a lot of the fun out of it, but at least it's a way to get the items for now. If you are after ENM drops however, only one works and there are no way to get drops from the others atm.


trying to get a mercenary's earring.

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