This is the truth for sure. Sucks that random dickheads can ruin the game experience for so many others.

I don't suppose anyone has any idea if there's a timeline for the return of bcnms? I understand it's probably just a "whenever it gets fixed" sort of thing, but just curious if there's a general idea.

This is one of the main reasons why I stopped playing this server but keeping a eye on it if it improves/gets turned in to a true vanilla server, e.g. moving worms, level sync nerf.

It also don't help certain players are using backdoor ways to cheat/exploit there way.

Now seems this server is starting to move away from the vanilla experience even more, its a shame since it could be such an amazing server. :/

Level sync is not Vanilla.

The level 40 ownm are very easily trio'd by blmx2 + rdm, or blm + rdm +cor. So really you only need 2 people dualboxing, and that is almost just as easy as the bcnms were/are. It takes approx 15-20 minutes with good gear, food, using refresh juices and spamming aspir, if you get hit by a breath tp move you are a noob (easily out-ranged by running away and casting only from max distance). Treasure hunter is thought to increase drop rate as its an open world mob so taking a thf alt might help increase drop rate. If you want to use other jobs go ahead, but most people won't bother to so you'd need friends.

throughout the history of ffxi I am sure we can all remember those times where certain job set-ups (or a job as a whole) were in-demand and all of the other jobs were shunned. certain cop missions back in the day, 4-2 ouryu and blm or smn burn, etc. People levelled certain jobs even if they didn't really want to so they could progress. Sure, its not great but as already mentioned, Nas is aware of the problems. Just get with the programme, make some friends and level useful jobs for ownms or farm for gil solo and buy the scroll.

edit: there really isn't anything wrong with server imo. This is how ffxi always was! the drops are out there. Certain people just seemed to be crying because they couldn't be bothered to figure out strategies to kill ownm. but the cats out of the bag now, so no reason to cry anymore. Go kill em or farm for gil. You know instead of crying you could have enjoyed the fun of figuring out good strategies yourself, exploring and figuring out where the ownm are and good ways to kite them. Learn from your experiences and cut down kill times as much as possible to be more efficient. I had that fun and made quite a bit of gil in the process with my ownm dualbox partner. Its sad how so few people have bothered to engage with ownms.

castle oztroja: ownm in first big room, tunnel on left. kite in circles in big room
davoi: first left passage then take a right. pull to first pond area and kite around pond.
sauromugue: zone from meriph OP warp. go north a bit and east slightly along the path and the ownm is on the right. use cliff to kite for ease.
ordelle cave (this one can drop PCC!): north of morbolger and napalm NMs. kite it down the west tunnel and circle room to kill it easily.
garlaige citadel:first left then right down corridor and ownm just there. kite it using the first part of path towards basement, and then circle back by falling off mini-ledge. Kill citadel bats and 1 beetle before pull, if you are good u can kill before respawns.
batallia downs: jugner zoneline hug right wall when you reach the first big hill the ownm is near it. kite using the open space near zoneline.
rolanberry: take pashh op to zone. hug left wall and you see it within 45 secs. abuse the ownm silly pathing around the small wall its near.

Also the lvl 30 ownm might drop utsu NI. blmx2 + rdm strat is easy to kill using good gear, food, using refresh juices and spamming aspir.

That change is on purpose - there was once a time where people leveled almost exclusively on worms in attohwa chasm. This is actually a quality of life improvement, although you may not be aware of why.

None of us control this server. I'm simply glad it's here and take it at face value. This server has no obligation to bend to my will.

So, these ownm 30 / 40 are being somewhat "cheesed" by having a full team of ranged, and attempting to juggle aggro around?

So it's 100% confirmed that you absolutely MUST kite the thing right?

I'm honestly asking how these are done bc myself and some friends want to begin "figuring these out", but if we're pulling the Dragon just to see which debuffs stick, what it's immune to, etc, then we're just screwing over every one else for the next twelve hours...

We've done two pulls on the ownm20s in kon/lathein, and I don't actually see how it's doable outside of gimmicking the hell out of it. The thing's raw numbers : attack speed, health, damage, are all absurd for a level 20

Yes, you have to kite them. We killed an OWNM30 with a balanced party and it involved kiting it around at 50% hp until we were full again anyway. I would honestly love to see these things get a buffed drop rate, given some counter kiting abilities and force utilizing a more diverse set of classes - but it is what it is.

Did you ever try throwing a couple buncles at it?

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no, although i suggested this to my friends, we're all getting out first real jobs to 30 just now -- i guess i'll start farming for the carbuncle ruby soon...


i dont understand how you can kite something at level 20 though, doesnt the dragon move faster than a character without flee?

No. They move at the same rate players do, but they stand still to cast spells which lets you put distance between yourself and them.

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