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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:41 pm 
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Sold wrote:
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Did you ever try throwing a couple buncles at it?



no, although i suggested this to my friends, we're all getting out first real jobs to 30 just now -- i guess i'll start farming for the carbuncle ruby soon...


i dont understand how you can kite something at level 20 though, doesnt the dragon move faster than a character without flee?


The ownm's are actually more difficult to take down the lower level you get, since you have less spells, hp/mp pool, abilities, damage, and effective gear at your disposal. The wyverns still have their teeth, though.

Once you are able to fight one with gravity on, its really a game changing experience for a lot more jobs. If you can't kite, I can't think of many better ways to survive than have a wall of carbuncle to separate you from the bad guys. Carbuncle has very minimal drain on resources with carbuncle mitts at level 20. Just make sure you know how to kite with out getting hate, and that's half the battle.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:43 pm 
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Gweivyth wrote:

No. They move at the same rate players do, but they stand still to cast spells which lets you put distance between yourself and them.



okay i understand now, so is there a max range you can move them away from the point you engage them at? -- do they leash at a certain range, or have some weird mechanic that keeps you from dragging them really far away?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:30 am 
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Sold wrote:
Gweivyth wrote:

No. They move at the same rate players do, but they stand still to cast spells which lets you put distance between yourself and them.



okay i understand now, so is there a max range you can move them away from the point you engage them at? -- do they leash at a certain range, or have some weird mechanic that keeps you from dragging them really far away?

Nah they don't have a radius, they'll follow you until you zone. You actually need to kite some of them away from their spawn because they spawn where the surrounding mobs will be aggressive to you once you level sync.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:19 pm 
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Kazaram wrote:
The level 40 ownm are very easily trio'd by blmx2 + rdm, or blm + rdm +cor. So really you only need 2 people dualboxing, and that is almost just as easy as the bcnms were/are. It takes approx 15-20 minutes with good gear, food, using refresh juices and spamming aspir, if you get hit by a breath tp move you are a noob (easily out-ranged by running away and casting only from max distance). Treasure hunter is thought to increase drop rate as its an open world mob so taking a thf alt might help increase drop rate. If you want to use other jobs go ahead, but most people won't bother to so you'd need friends.

throughout the history of ffxi I am sure we can all remember those times where certain job set-ups (or a job as a whole) were in-demand and all of the other jobs were shunned. certain cop missions back in the day, 4-2 ouryu and blm or smn burn, etc. People levelled certain jobs even if they didn't really want to so they could progress. Sure, its not great but as already mentioned, Nas is aware of the problems. Just get with the programme, make some friends and level useful jobs for ownms or farm for gil solo and buy the scroll.

edit: there really isn't anything wrong with server imo. This is how ffxi always was! the drops are out there. Certain people just seemed to be crying because they couldn't be bothered to figure out strategies to kill ownm. but the cats out of the bag now, so no reason to cry anymore. Go kill em or farm for gil. You know instead of crying you could have enjoyed the fun of figuring out good strategies yourself, exploring and figuring out where the ownm are and good ways to kite them. Learn from your experiences and cut down kill times as much as possible to be more efficient. I had that fun and made quite a bit of gil in the process with my ownm dualbox partner. Its sad how so few people have bothered to engage with ownms.

castle oztroja: ownm in first big room, tunnel on left. kite in circles in big room
davoi: first left passage then take a right. pull to first pond area and kite around pond.
sauromugue: zone from meriph OP warp. go north a bit and east slightly along the path and the ownm is on the right. use cliff to kite for ease.
ordelle cave (this one can drop PCC!): north of morbolger and napalm NMs. kite it down the west tunnel and circle room to kill it easily.
garlaige citadel:first left then right down corridor and ownm just there. kite it using the first part of path towards basement, and then circle back by falling off mini-ledge. Kill citadel bats and 1 beetle before pull, if you are good u can kill before respawns.
batallia downs: jugner zoneline hug right wall when you reach the first big hill the ownm is near it. kite using the open space near zoneline.
rolanberry: take pashh op to zone. hug left wall and you see it within 45 secs. abuse the ownm silly pathing around the small wall its near.

Also the lvl 30 ownm might drop utsu NI. blmx2 + rdm strat is easy to kill using good gear, food, using refresh juices and spamming aspir.


Great that it worked out for you but it's not for the rest of everyone and new players get royally screwed by this so its great that you have the best gear and a ton of friends to help you but most people here don't. People like you really need to grow up and not talk down to people or there going to think your a jerk off.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:45 pm 
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Fluxi wrote:
Masadi wrote:
This is one of the main reasons why I stopped playing this server but keeping a eye on it if it improves/gets turned in to a true vanilla server, e.g. moving worms, level sync nerf.

It also don't help certain players are using backdoor ways to cheat/exploit there way.

Now seems this server is starting to move away from the vanilla experience even more, its a shame since it could be such an amazing server. :/


Level sync is not Vanilla.


Yes, I'm aware of this, reason why level sync was put in was due to lack of players, the server is still not ready for any sort of level sync nerf.

If we had the player base I would of perfed no level sync but we don't, also about the worm nerf, there was other ways to go about that, e.g. lower the exp of them said worms, there are alot of changes to this server though I will admit some are good but some are just bad for the server,

Now I understand this is nas's server but at the end of the day he needs to cater for his player base if he wants players, not just his personal view on how things should of been,

At the start I loved this server, it hit me with how things was before Aby ruined official, all the memory's came back, i was really enjoying myself but after awhile I started notice things, now they were small things to start with, like exp ring but didnt really bother me much, just means more grinding.

Then the big issues hit e.g. worms, BCNM's etc etc, some of these issues was still in the middle of being fixed, so fair enough but then big updates came, level sync nerf, exp camp change, and then getting told soon nas rolls out something that is harmful, he refuses to change it, I personally like nas but he needs to listen more to the player base.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:54 pm 
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Well, Refresh scroll is 600K now on the AH with limited supply. Utsusemi NI is 700K, zero stock. Soon both will be 1M.

Good luck to anyone new wanting to play RDM or NIN. We basically have a very unhealthy situation in which one of the most useful main job, RDM, cannot advance and the other, a very useful main or sub, NIN, is stuck in progression.

Putting these scrolls on an NPC for 500K is a good short term solution, a median between the constant inflating AH prices and still costly enough to promote OWNM camping or later when it's fixed, BCNM teams.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:08 pm 
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Ariel wrote:
Kazaram wrote:
The level 40 ownm are very easily trio'd by blmx2 + rdm, or blm + rdm +cor. So really you only need 2 people dualboxing, and that is almost just as easy as the bcnms were/are. It takes approx 15-20 minutes with good gear, food, using refresh juices and spamming aspir, if you get hit by a breath tp move you are a noob (easily out-ranged by running away and casting only from max distance). Treasure hunter is thought to increase drop rate as its an open world mob so taking a thf alt might help increase drop rate. If you want to use other jobs go ahead, but most people won't bother to so you'd need friends.

throughout the history of ffxi I am sure we can all remember those times where certain job set-ups (or a job as a whole) were in-demand and all of the other jobs were shunned. certain cop missions back in the day, 4-2 ouryu and blm or smn burn, etc. People levelled certain jobs even if they didn't really want to so they could progress. Sure, its not great but as already mentioned, Nas is aware of the problems. Just get with the programme, make some friends and level useful jobs for ownms or farm for gil solo and buy the scroll.

edit: there really isn't anything wrong with server imo. This is how ffxi always was! the drops are out there. Certain people just seemed to be crying because they couldn't be bothered to figure out strategies to kill ownm. but the cats out of the bag now, so no reason to cry anymore. Go kill em or farm for gil. You know instead of crying you could have enjoyed the fun of figuring out good strategies yourself, exploring and figuring out where the ownm are and good ways to kite them. Learn from your experiences and cut down kill times as much as possible to be more efficient. I had that fun and made quite a bit of gil in the process with my ownm dualbox partner. Its sad how so few people have bothered to engage with ownms.

castle oztroja: ownm in first big room, tunnel on left. kite in circles in big room
davoi: first left passage then take a right. pull to first pond area and kite around pond.
sauromugue: zone from meriph OP warp. go north a bit and east slightly along the path and the ownm is on the right. use cliff to kite for ease.
ordelle cave (this one can drop PCC!): north of morbolger and napalm NMs. kite it down the west tunnel and circle room to kill it easily.
garlaige citadel:first left then right down corridor and ownm just there. kite it using the first part of path towards basement, and then circle back by falling off mini-ledge. Kill citadel bats and 1 beetle before pull, if you are good u can kill before respawns.
batallia downs: jugner zoneline hug right wall when you reach the first big hill the ownm is near it. kite using the open space near zoneline.
rolanberry: take pashh op to zone. hug left wall and you see it within 45 secs. abuse the ownm silly pathing around the small wall its near.

Also the lvl 30 ownm might drop utsu NI. blmx2 + rdm strat is easy to kill using good gear, food, using refresh juices and spamming aspir.


Great that it worked out for you but it's not for the rest of everyone and new players get royally screwed by this so its great that you have the best gear and a ton of friends to help you but most people here don't. People like you really need to grow up and not talk down to people or there going to think your a jerk off.


no. I am sorry but it is a harsh truth. OWNMs are just easy, even for new players. If you dont have aspir, good gear, food or refresh juices just take more players if you find yourself timing out, my post just detailed optimal conditions to maximise gil/hour. It just requires some effort, but the truth is there is no good reason why a group of new players couldn't tackle these ownm, split gil or share out the drops and earn their scrolls over a few days/weeks. The current situation just seems more hardcore like the true old days, team up and enjoy it :).

edit: Also FYI if I wanted to be a jerk I wouldn't have posted information about how to kill ownm, where they are located and places to kite them. I would have used the info about bcnms being broken (which i didnt know as I haven't logged on in a while), logged on killed ownm and sold y'all overpriced scrolls >.>. I gave that information to try to stimulate people into killing them the ease the prices and strain for people that want to level those jobs.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:55 pm 
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im ok with them being on,ownms the problem i have with ownms is jobs outside of blm rng and rdm arent invited because theyre nearly untabkable straight up due to them 1 shotting paladins...

they are very poorly tuned for their levels.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:19 pm 
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God knows I've done my fair share of complaining about BCNMs being down since I love my RDM.. But I've also been working myself and my LS towards actually doing OWNMs. I suggest you guys do the same.. If nothing else BCNM might be fixed by the time you're ready, but you'll have another off-job to sub or help your LS level.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:27 pm 
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Has anyone heard from Nas regarding a potential timeline on a fix for the BCNMs? I don't think I've even seen an admin message the past week - which is really only unusual because the first 2 weeks playing I saw them constantly.


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