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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:21 pm 
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It depends what you mean.

BLM aren't nearly as bad in parties, until later like.. 60+ as people say, with decent gear.

The invite rate? Is as bad as people say, after like 50.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:52 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
You'll see at lv 51+

Though it really isn't as bad as people say

Funny because BLM damage seems to drop off around lv35 or so and then picks up again once you get your ele staffs at 51 :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:57 pm 
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52+ the only things you'll ever find seeking are THFs and BLMs. ͡ಠ ʖ̯ ͡ಠ Maybe toss the odd SMN in there for good measure.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:57 pm 
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The answer to this thread is "mostly no, only a few super try hards will make it these days"


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:01 pm 
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rmackner wrote:
Funny because BLM damage seems to drop off around lv35 or so and then picks up again once you get your ele staffs at 51 :roll:

DDs start getting their high-damage weapon skills like Penta Thrust around the same time, doesn't matter if you have staves or not you're not keeping up with Penta Thrust spam.


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Made it up to 68 in today's rough times for a BLM, with most of the post-50 levels being in traditional parties. Nose to the grindstone, boys.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:37 pm 
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It's absolutely possible. Having good gear, and being higher ranked, and just more recognizable definitely helps. There's no denying, it's a grind though.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:21 am 
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I'd take a rank2 pup over a rank10 blm.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:30 pm 
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Maybe we can start a manaburn community called Burnfam. A conglomerate of BLM that exist under one banner to just manaburn shit to the ground. Tell those pesky melee's to make like a tree and leave.


This is legitimately a good idea. Start up a blm shell, invite people that are leveling blm/brd/cor/rdm. Make a place where you can help each other on the 50-75 end of the grind.



While I actually think this is a good idea, 75% of the jobs you mentioned don't have any issue at all getting into a party with the best XP rates possible, so it's still a tough sell to them.

I enjoy odd parties from time to time, and don't really pay much attention to the XP/hr as long as it's going okay, but I could see that being an issue in general.


This is exactly my point though. I also enjoy odd parties. Yes, you will have players that only want 3-4x DD/nin, BRD and or Cor, and rdm. But you'll also have players that are either ok with going into unorthodox parties, or that simply enjoy them more than standard fare XP groups. Funky setups that shouldn't work - but do - are my bread & butter.

Mana burns aren't really that funky or unorthodox though. They were fairly common in retail in era, and they work fairly well here too. I've done them as low as 42 in Crawler's Nest, and as high as Labyrinth of Onzozo and The Boyhada Tree. I dunno how well it works for merits, but I know how well it works through the rest of the XP range. I don't see any reason for a bard, corsair, or rdm to turn down a primarily social shell that's orientated toward mana burns. BLMs working on their second 75 that's brd/cor/rdm that wanna give their fellow blm a leg up through the struggle, brd/cor/rdm in endgame shells that would like to have a larger pool of blm to recruit from, or even just people with those jobs that enjoy a good manaburn are 3 good reasons to hop in even though they won't have trouble finding XP.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:16 pm 
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What sucks is, we are needed for endgame content. Wish people remembered that.


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