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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:30 pm 
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Cherry_Bombs wrote:
Let's be specific about Sneak/Invis - Even if it were totally random in '05 retail era, that's not how it should have been. It should be given to cast a reliable duration based on level, based on enhancing magic skill, based on mind, etc. My experience so far is that it's totally random. It's been my experience so far that I'm getting less than 1 minute casts off of level 60+ RDMs. I'm sorry, that's not acceptable. A degree of randomness and a degree of nerf does not bother me and I'm sure it wouldn't bother anyone else, but it needs a degree of reliability to balance it.


I completely agree about your vision of sanding some of the game's rough edges that make no sense and are not fun, such as this totally random Sneak/Invis duration.

Nas' small deviations from "absolute 2005" may indicate that he's also open to making such targeted changes. I put your suggestion in my Q/A question.

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:36 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Cherry_Bombs wrote:
People who are already in the endgame, telling folks to stop whining or dropping references to New England Patriots coaches is particularly grating.


I'm sure the Bill Belichick reference was in relation to complaining even if you've been on the server for a good length of time. Also that point was made by someone in strict opposition to the OP of this thread. Try again.


Ok, I'm not sure what you're getting at, but thanks for the contribution.

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:55 pm 
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Cherry_Bombs wrote:
Kazen wrote:
Cherry_Bombs wrote:
People who are already in the endgame, telling folks to stop whining or dropping references to New England Patriots coaches is particularly grating.


I'm sure the Bill Belichick reference was in relation to complaining even if you've been on the server for a good length of time. Also that point was made by someone in strict opposition to the OP of this thread. Try again.


Ok, I'm not sure what you're getting at, but thanks for the contribution.


I'm saying the person who made the reference to Belichick was doing so to make a point why it's ok to complain about changes. You also skipped the "challenging" part of my reply.

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:05 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Cherry_Bombs wrote:
Kazen wrote:

I'm sure the Bill Belichick reference was in relation to complaining even if you've been on the server for a good length of time. Also that point was made by someone in strict opposition to the OP of this thread. Try again.


Ok, I'm not sure what you're getting at, but thanks for the contribution.


I'm saying the person who made the reference to Belichick was doing so to make a point why it's ok to complain about changes. You also skipped the "challenging" part of my reply.


Sorry, chief, still not really picking up what you're laying down. I guess there's a "use only once per thread" rule or something?

And I mean, yeah, I guess we do have different ideas. So what?

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:06 pm 
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Cherry_Bombs wrote:
People who are already in the endgame, telling folks to stop whining or dropping references to New England Patriots coaches is particularly grating.


You insinuated that these two things were done by the same group of people.

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:11 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Cherry_Bombs wrote:
People who are already in the endgame, telling folks to stop whining or dropping references to New England Patriots coaches is particularly grating.


You insinuated that these two things were done by the same group of people.


Sorry if that's how you read it, but I didn't mean to insinuate that it's exclusively the end game crowd doing this. From glancing at the thread I gathered that OP was in the end-game.

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:19 pm 
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I see we are back talking about nonsense again


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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:52 pm 
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mimickiller wrote:
I see we are back talking about nonsense again


Let's talk more about how this ranged change has also effect Thiefs ability to solo, so now it effects more than just Ranger.


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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:07 am 
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Chameleon wrote:
Level Sync in its original form looked absolutely terrible (I quit before its implementation) but level sync as we have it is pretty much the best of both worlds, although the population is very high there are still often gaps in level ranges which are easily filled via level sync without being so crazy as leveling an entire job in the dunes.

Sure you end up staying in certain areas longer than normal, but players still are still required to branch out and explore the world for different exp camps while keeping things flexible and accessible for players. A 10 level sync gap seems a happy medium, maybe it could even be reduced to let's say 5 if the population is much larger but for now it's one of the good quality of life differences this server has.


To be fair, when it was first implemented level synch didn't seem to change much. SE's servers (The ones I played on anyway) had a higher population than Nasomi may ever see. So the only time I synched way down was when I wanted to play with a friend that didn't have a higher level job or something of that nature.

exelyon wrote:
You quoted me before I edited in that he wasnt wrong. If people want nasomi to revert rangers, just stop playing them. If theyre still worth playing, then play them. He generally sits on his throne thinking were all retarded and dont know what's wrong with his server, so generally it takes trends and actual statistics to change his mind. And when the same questions get asked over and over every stream, is nas really that wrong?


I feel the need to point out that Nas claims there are some 10 thousand active players on this server, and only 2 or 3 hundred were watching the last stream. I think it's been viewed 1880 times since as I'm writing this. So only a fraction of the playerbase sees those, repeat questions are more or less inevitable.

Louiscool wrote:
There are many very smart people who (seemingly genuinely) believe that RNG is fine and era accurate.

Which I find, personally, hysterical as someone who had RNG lvl’d to 75 around TOAU’s release in a good endgame shell, and the shit was hardly used at all for many reasons.

I understand everyone wants to keep abusing it, because it’s easy, but it’s really ridiculous.

I’m just curious if Nas actually believes it’s still broken or not.


I'm sorry you didn't level ranger until after Square Enix broke it, but your experience with a broken job does not mean that it was broken here.

Per Nasomi's 'about us' page:

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Welcome to Nasomi!

Nasomi is a free to play, non-official FFXI server based around the 2005 era of the game. We provide an old school style of play in the world of Vana'diel for players who want to re-live the nostalgia of 2005.


How ranger operated before Nasomi's changes is how ranger operated in the 2005 era. I.E. not broken. It's damned sure broken now though.

Edit: If we're now shooting for TOAU era, Nasomi probably ought to consider changing all that 'Party like it's 2005!/ 2005 era!' stuff. Cause it's quite misleading.

Edit2: And by 'we're' I mean Nasomi.

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:25 am 
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Aewyn wrote:

How ranger operated before Nasomi's changes is how ranger operated in the 2005 era. I.E. not broken. It's damned sure broken now though.

Edit: If we're now shooting for TOAU era, Nasomi probably ought to consider changing all that 'Party like it's 2005!/ 2005 era!' stuff. Cause it's quite misleading.

Edit2: And by 'we're' I mean Nasomi.


RNG nerf was in 2005 so it's not really misleading at all... technically it's more accurate now since before (at least based on my observation & common sense) you already had the worst part of the 2005 RNG adjustments anyway. Now you have both, it's more consistent to era, not less, and you got a more generous sweet spot according to nas.


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