5456 wrote:
Why in the world would anyone from any linkshell/guild on any server on any mmo share any of that kind of stuff with active competitors? This thread had no place to go but down the shitter because the very concept of the OP is a silly proposition really. I think Gov recognized that from the jump.
So this is the thread that tracked the first JOL kill game-wide and first ever sighting of AV:
https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/35108 ... ium-ServerThis is the largest collection of post-nerf AV stats and theory-crafting:
https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/81211 ... OP-Updated)
If you don't recognize the name Kaeko from the second thread, shame on you; He is probably the best FFXI tactician/scientist ever to play.
Even with the wealth of information/theory-crafting in that thread AV was not killed legit (sch2hr doesn't count) from October 2008 until the first Perfect Defense kill in 2010.
Sky is your green circle ski-slope; sea your blue square. DL/Vrtra are your black diamond fights. AV is light skydiving naked with a pair of skiis. It is unlike anything else in the game: a fight that was designed with the players losing being the norm rather than players winning.
Yes, yes we all hate each other; however lest we forget this isn't a land king HNM fight where one shells success directly contributes to another shells failure and wasted time. One shell's AV kill doesn't make some other shell's AV kill any less substantial. Now if you want to play the isolationist card, and you genuinely think you've got the shell to pull that off, alright. For the rest of us, be it retail veterans still leveling in qufim, or the wider EGLS scene, this thread is for us to come together, share information, share non-retail aspects, theory-craft and really try to accomplish something man-on-the-moon difficult.
So to go answer your question 5456: when the minds and endgame-shells of 32 servers couldn't come up with a way to beat this sucker, you'd be crazy to think you could win *without* sharing information on our little 1/4th of a server playing here.