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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:45 am 
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Hyperion wrote:
The way to 100 BC wasnt always like this (screenshot). Also saw alot of these 80+ synths +desynths without a single skillup. I'm missing 2x +0.1, forgot to take screenshots, but i got +0.8 in 40 min with only 40 synths +30 desynths on a lv100 synth a week ago.

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Currently working on CC. Just hit 93, been doing a lot of synth/desynth items and getting about similar skillup results. In all honesty, skillup rate doesn't even seem that bad, at least from what i'm seeing.. Hell i made Dance shoes +1 yesterday @95CC with adv.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:39 pm 
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medux wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
The way to 100 BC wasnt always like this (screenshot). Also saw alot of these 80+ synths +desynths without a single skillup. I'm missing 2x +0.1, forgot to take screenshots, but i got +0.8 in 40 min with only 40 synths +30 desynths on a lv100 synth a week ago.

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Currently working on CC. Just hit 93, been doing a lot of synth/desynth items and getting about similar skillup results. In all honesty, skillup rate doesn't even seem that bad, at least from what i'm seeing.. Hell i made Dance shoes +1 yesterday @95CC with adv.


I’m so confused by this post.. Getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 synth has nothing to do with skillup rates.. and you just hit 93 but then you are 95.. you’re using adv support on the main skill up synth from 94-98.. are you even real?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:57 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
medux wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
The way to 100 BC wasnt always like this (screenshot). Also saw alot of these 80+ synths +desynths without a single skillup. I'm missing 2x +0.1, forgot to take screenshots, but i got +0.8 in 40 min with only 40 synths +30 desynths on a lv100 synth a week ago.

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Currently working on CC. Just hit 93, been doing a lot of synth/desynth items and getting about similar skillup results. In all honesty, skillup rate doesn't even seem that bad, at least from what i'm seeing.. Hell i made Dance shoes +1 yesterday @95CC with adv.


I’m so confused by this post.. Getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 synth has nothing to do with skillup rates.. and you just hit 93 but then you are 95.. you’re using adv support on the main skill up synth from 94-98.. are you even real?


Made it when i was 92 with ADV synth. Well, no getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 has nothing to do with skillup rates, except for the fact the HQ item i made was what i was skilling up on, was just happy i made a +1. I'm not the one complaining about skillups must be doing something right.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:09 pm 
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Metzger wrote:
This is the session following the previous 130 crafts.

2 level skill gap between myself(86) and synth(88). Not a single 0.1. Skill-ups are fine though.


When asking for concrete data, this is as statistically definitive as it could ever be. I don't know what the expectation value is for skill-up probability, but for some representative examples:

*If skill-up probability = 10%, the probability of getting 0 skill-ups in 130 attempts is about 1 in almost 900,000. For context, imagine doing /random 130 times and NEVER exceeding 900 in all 130 attempts.

*If skill-up probability = 2%, the probability of getting 0 skill-ups in 130 attempts is about 1 in about 14. Although most people could imagine never exceeding 980 in 130 /random attempts, the odds are still quite poor when considering Metzger's reality.

For the sake of argument, my anecdotal experience is that skill-up rates were once higher than 10%. But I'd accept 10% as quite a conservative estimate. Regardless of the skill-up rate now on Nasomi, Metzger obviously did experience bad luck. But either the skill-up rates are abysmal or Metzger accidentally had advanced support on for 130 synths.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:11 pm 
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medux wrote:
Aeroo wrote:
medux wrote:

Currently working on CC. Just hit 93, been doing a lot of synth/desynth items and getting about similar skillup results. In all honesty, skillup rate doesn't even seem that bad, at least from what i'm seeing.. Hell i made Dance shoes +1 yesterday @95CC with adv.


I’m so confused by this post.. Getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 synth has nothing to do with skillup rates.. and you just hit 93 but then you are 95.. you’re using adv support on the main skill up synth from 94-98.. are you even real?


Made it when i was 92 with ADV synth. Well, no getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 has nothing to do with skillup rates, except for the fact the HQ item i made was what i was skilling up on, was just happy i made a +1. I'm not the one complaining about skillups must be doing something right.



Or not. Definitely one or the other.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:24 pm 
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medux wrote:
Aeroo wrote:
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Currently working on CC. Just hit 93, been doing a lot of synth/desynth items and getting about similar skillup results. In all honesty, skillup rate doesn't even seem that bad, at least from what i'm seeing.. Hell i made Dance shoes +1 yesterday @95CC with adv.


I’m so confused by this post.. Getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 synth has nothing to do with skillup rates.. and you just hit 93 but then you are 95.. you’re using adv support on the main skill up synth from 94-98.. are you even real?


Made it when i was 92 with ADV synth. Well, no getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 has nothing to do with skillup rates, except for the fact the HQ item i made was what i was skilling up on, was just happy i made a +1. I'm not the one complaining about skillups must be doing something right.


Was this just recently? Got pics? What you're saying should be 100% impossible unless the being under cap tier thing were still broken, which it isn't. I just went and did 50 synths to double check. I'm calling fake news on your post.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:33 pm 
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medux wrote:
Aeroo wrote:
medux wrote:

Currently working on CC. Just hit 93, been doing a lot of synth/desynth items and getting about similar skillup results. In all honesty, skillup rate doesn't even seem that bad, at least from what i'm seeing.. Hell i made Dance shoes +1 yesterday @95CC with adv.


I’m so confused by this post.. Getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 synth has nothing to do with skillup rates.. and you just hit 93 but then you are 95.. you’re using adv support on the main skill up synth from 94-98.. are you even real?


Made it when i was 92 with ADV synth. Well, no getting a random stroke of luck on a t0 has nothing to do with skillup rates, except for the fact the HQ item i made was what i was skilling up on, was just happy i made a +1. I'm not the one complaining about skillups must be doing something right.


Medux Trolling or CNN employee?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:13 pm 
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Friends have said they get hqs while skilling up also now. This wasn't possible before in my experience but I guess it is now. People getting hq2s and 3s while skilling up as well and some while only in a tier 1 20 levels above cap and hitting hq3s. Crafting is broken in a lot of ways.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:45 pm 
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Why is that broken? HQs while skilling up were always possible in retail.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:41 pm 
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HarleyM wrote:
Why is that broken? HQs while skilling up were always possible in retail.


It was like 1/1000 or something and some have gone 2 and 3 in a row. You also glossed over the part where i said hq2s and 3s from under cap. Meanwhile, I can go for a t1 synth and not really be all that surprised if i go 0/25.

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