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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:32 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Not allowed.

It's 1 forum account per person, not per IP.

Why can't we have more than 1 forum account?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:41 pm 
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Ariel wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Not allowed.

It's 1 forum account per person, not per IP.

Why can't we have more than 1 forum account?


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• Each person will be permitted a maximum of ONE forum account, which can contain up to 3 game accounts, each with ONE character on them.

https://na.nasomi.com/rules.php

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:43 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
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What about players who took over characters they didn’t create? Abraxas/Coolfish being played by (formally) Tatai comes to mind. Famously, the guy who got a huge number of accounts, most of which weren’t his, jailed for account sharing.

While granted, the account system has definitely seemed to resolve a lot of the issues people like the aforementioned player had relied on to succeed. It still seems as though being lax on the nuance of those rules just permits people like that to persist in spite of their overall intent. Ie., guy who got banned for account sharing, now playing on someone else’s characters— or as was implied in the OP, the use of a VPN, or hotspot to log into more than the allowed number of accounts.

Regarding people who "took over" accounts: as long as those accounts aren't being shared, then whoever bound it, owns it. If it's being shared, whoever has been sharing it and whoever it is being shared with are at risk of losing that character and all associated characters. The exact problem before this system was that it was not possible to truly say who owned what character, making it more difficult for nas to 'fairly' judge those scenarios.



Nabutso you posting false information again shame on you.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:45 pm 
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And what exactly is false there?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:48 pm 
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"Regarding people who "took over" accounts: as long as those accounts aren't being shared, then whoever bound it, owns it."


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:02 pm 
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That's the definition of the binding process, yes.

You take the account, it's yours. Permanently. By binding, you are claiming ownership. If it is not shared, then you for all intents and purposes own that game account.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:11 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
That's the definition of the binding process, yes.

You take the account, it's yours. Permanently. By binding, you are claiming ownership. If it is not shared, then you for all intents and purposes own that game account.


nab... i finally posted a non-trolly question. care to weigh in, because i think it's an important distinction?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:57 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
I think, not to speak for him, what Baldr is saying is: Is the rule simply two characters over level 10 per human being? Or is it you can "own" two characters over level 10 per human being?

We all know that account sharing isn't really enforced as a rule until one of the accounts breaks a rule, and then everyone it was shared with risks losing their other characters too.... but is it explicitly against the rules (i.e. reporting it will result in actual action) if someone "owns" two characters over level 10... but routinely accesses another 2-3 characters over level 10 as well that are bound to someone else's account?

Assume I don't mean concurrently, because I think it's obviously against the rules to control that many characters are one point in time... Also, for once, I'm not attempting to troll Nabutso. It's a genuine curiosity on the enforcement of the rule.

2 characters over level 10 per human being. Having access to that character's forum account is considered ownership. Having access to that character but not the forum account, or it is on anyone's 2nd forum account, is not allowed, and may constitute sharing, or the creation of more than one forum account.

Account sharing rules are enforced. If anyone is breaking that rule, feel free to report them. Account sharing itself is against the rules, you do not have to break another rule to have this rule enforced. Please, none of this "we all know x isn't enforced" nonsense. It is enforced.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:52 am 
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This kinda ban wave would get enough people into mordion to make DA lag look like a walk in the park lol.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:48 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
I think, not to speak for him, what Baldr is saying is: Is the rule simply two characters over level 10 per human being? Or is it you can "own" two characters over level 10 per human being?

We all know that account sharing isn't really enforced as a rule until one of the accounts breaks a rule, and then everyone it was shared with risks losing their other characters too.... but is it explicitly against the rules (i.e. reporting it will result in actual action) if someone "owns" two characters over level 10... but routinely accesses another 2-3 characters over level 10 as well that are bound to someone else's account?

Assume I don't mean concurrently, because I think it's obviously against the rules to control that many characters are one point in time... Also, for once, I'm not attempting to troll Nabutso. It's a genuine curiosity on the enforcement of the rule.

2 characters over level 10 per human being. Having access to that character's forum account is considered ownership. Having access to that character but not the forum account, or it is on anyone's 2nd forum account, is not allowed, and may constitute sharing, or the creation of more than one forum account.

Account sharing rules are enforced. If anyone is breaking that rule, feel free to report them. Account sharing itself is against the rules, you do not have to break another rule to have this rule enforced. Please, none of this "we all know x isn't enforced" nonsense. It is enforced.


"• If a character from that IP performs an action resulting in discipline, your characters will also be subject to the same punishment, up to and including loss of character/account."

this sounds like the punishment isn't experienced until someone involved with the sharing breaks another rule? Again, honestly not trying to troll you, I just think you are aware that many people (even if you don't specifically know whom) share accounts and otherwise generally follow the rules... and if that is something that is going to be punished, on it's own, I think it's kinda big deal.

If the punishment, of loss of an account, is going to start being imposed on people that have broken no other rule besides account sharing... I think I figured out how to fix the lag concerns.

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