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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:36 am 
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RAIST5150 wrote:
How much would you be willing to pay? Depending on server, they could be as low as 500k or as much as 1mill in retail.


In era Gaiters were 50M+. Please stop.

As for OP, I paid 18M from Deadwing for the pair to replace the ones I threw on the ground. With him gone, you and Nabutso are probably looking at 25M+.

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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:04 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:14 am 
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Kipling wrote:
Kazen wrote:
RAIST5150 wrote:
How much would you be willing to pay? Depending on server, they could be as low as 500k or as much as 1mill in retail.


In era Gaiters were 50M+. Please stop.

As for OP, I paid 18M from Deadwing for the pair to replace the ones I threw on the ground. With him gone, you and Nabutso are probably looking at 25M+.


Is that because most linkshells that would be able to camp/kill Tia already have gaiters for all the members that would want them? Just curious since I don’t know anything about the end game community on Nasomi yet.


No, the shells that camp Tiamat are keeping the Gaiters. The only one I'd have doubts about if they got the right offer is Chess and co.

Deadwing had 3 pairs of them when I bought mine which brought him down to 2. I'm not sure if anyone else had bought one of his but with him gone, I don't foresee anybody else selling a pair anytime soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:15 am 
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RAIST5150 wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
RAIST5150 wrote:
How much would you be willing to pay? Depending on server, they could be as low as 500k or as much as 1mill in retail.


wut
look at the retail AH site. "Legacy" items have taken a real hit there.

Can't find a price in the AH here. If you aren't looking at bazaar prices on this site (or in-game), that is about the only "tangible" index out there. Otherwise it is as I said, how much would you be willing to pay?


Why are you comparing legacy items on retail AH to a 75 cap era server as if the comparison is even relevant.


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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:06 pm 
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RAIST5150 wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
RAIST5150 wrote:
How much would you be willing to pay? Depending on server, they could be as low as 500k or as much as 1mill in retail.


wut
look at the retail AH site. "Legacy" items have taken a real hit there.

Can't find a price in the AH here. If you aren't looking at bazaar prices on this site (or in-game), that is about the only "tangible" index out there. Otherwise it is as I said, how much would you be willing to pay?



What a dumbass post.

Current prices of equipment on retail is less meaningful than using a random number generator.

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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:18 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
RAIST5150 wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:

wut
look at the retail AH site. "Legacy" items have taken a real hit there.

Can't find a price in the AH here. If you aren't looking at bazaar prices on this site (or in-game), that is about the only "tangible" index out there. Otherwise it is as I said, how much would you be willing to pay?



What a dumbass post.

Current prices of equipment on retail is less meaningful than using a random number generator.

Not exactly. You can compare posted prices here to there, and adjust to get a feel for it. If you see some rare items still showing numbers going back a few years and they capped out at somethimg like 1/12 the price you can actually see being listed here, then you have some sort of index to work from. Which is what the OP was asking for, a starting point.

It is the only "objective" index you can actually look at, because there is no history of the prices here. Absent of numbers one can actually look up here, it boils down to the value the individual is willing to pay/charge... because there is currently no searchable index specifically for them here.


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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:24 pm 
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RAIST5150 wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
RAIST5150 wrote:
look at the retail AH site. "Legacy" items have taken a real hit there.

Can't find a price in the AH here. If you aren't looking at bazaar prices on this site (or in-game), that is about the only "tangible" index out there. Otherwise it is as I said, how much would you be willing to pay?



What a dumbass post.

Current prices of equipment on retail is less meaningful than using a random number generator.

Not exactly. You can compare posted prices here to there, and adjust to get a feel for it. If you see some rare items still showing numbers going back a few years and they capped out at somethimg like 1/12 the price you can actually see being listed here, then you have some sort of index to work from. Which is what the OP was asking for, a starting point.

As I stated in the last post... it is the only index you can actually look at, because there is no history of the prices here. Absent of numbers one can actually look up here, it boils down to the value the individual is willing to pay/charge... because there is currently no searchable index specifically for them here.


There are too many differences between even era retail and Nasomi for the numbers to be useful.

The fact that the prices you mentioned were 1/20 to 1/40 of Nasomi reality speaks volumes.


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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:31 pm 
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Concepcion wrote:
RAIST5150 wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:


What a dumbass post.

Current prices of equipment on retail is less meaningful than using a random number generator.

Not exactly. You can compare posted prices here to there, and adjust to get a feel for it. If you see some rare items still showing numbers going back a few years and they capped out at somethimg like 1/12 the price you can actually see being listed here, then you have some sort of index to work from. Which is what the OP was asking for, a starting point.

As I stated in the last post... it is the only index you can actually look at, because there is no history of the prices here. Absent of numbers one can actually look up here, it boils down to the value the individual is willing to pay/charge... because there is currently no searchable index specifically for them here.


There are too many differences between even era retail and Nasomi for the numbers to be useful.

The fact that the prices you mentioned were 1/20 to 1/40 of Nasomi reality speaks volumes.


Actually no. When I looked, I saw a +1 kote listed here for 8m. Saw them on Sylph I think going for up to 800k going back to something like 2012. On that same server the gaiters capped at 1.5 at the oldest price point. That would adjust to around 15m. Note someone posted they actually paid 18m, another posted somewhere around 12 or 13m.

Again, remember the OP was asking for a starting figure... a place to start negotiating, I guess.

My bad I guess for not fully walking people through the thought process earlier, but it is frustrating doing research and posts on a phone at work sometimes with all the typos and such. Expected people would be able to work it out on their own.


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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:51 pm 
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RAIST5150 wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
RAIST5150 wrote:
look at the retail AH site. "Legacy" items have taken a real hit there.

Can't find a price in the AH here. If you aren't looking at bazaar prices on this site (or in-game), that is about the only "tangible" index out there. Otherwise it is as I said, how much would you be willing to pay?



What a dumbass post.

Current prices of equipment on retail is less meaningful than using a random number generator.

Not exactly. You can compare posted prices here to there, and adjust to get a feel for it. If you see some rare items still showing numbers going back a few years and they capped out at somethimg like 1/12 the price you can actually see being listed here, then you have some sort of index to work from. Which is what the OP was asking for, a starting point.

It is the only "objective" index you can actually look at, because there is no history of the prices here. Absent of numbers one can actually look up here, it boils down to the value the individual is willing to pay/charge... because there is currently no searchable index specifically for them here.


The prices of items on retail are 100% irrelevant to their prices on nasomi. There’s no logical reason to give the answer you did, and it was 100% false.

OP asked for prices for Gaiters and players that could give a reasonable answer for that question have answered. You weren’t one of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Herald’s Gaiters
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:17 pm 
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RAIST5150 wrote:
Concepcion wrote:
RAIST5150 wrote:
Not exactly. You can compare posted prices here to there, and adjust to get a feel for it. If you see some rare items still showing numbers going back a few years and they capped out at somethimg like 1/12 the price you can actually see being listed here, then you have some sort of index to work from. Which is what the OP was asking for, a starting point.

As I stated in the last post... it is the only index you can actually look at, because there is no history of the prices here. Absent of numbers one can actually look up here, it boils down to the value the individual is willing to pay/charge... because there is currently no searchable index specifically for them here.


There are too many differences between even era retail and Nasomi for the numbers to be useful.

The fact that the prices you mentioned were 1/20 to 1/40 of Nasomi reality speaks volumes.


Actually no. When I looked, I saw a +1 kote listed here for 8m. Saw them on Sylph I think going for up to 800k going back to something like 2012. On that same server the gaiters capped at 1.5 at the oldest price point. That would adjust to around 15m. Note someone posted they actually paid 18m, another posted somewhere around 12 or 13m.

Again, remember the OP was asking for a starting figure... a place to start negotiating, I guess.

My bad I guess for not fully walking people through the thought process earlier, but it is frustrating doing research and posts on a phone at work sometimes with all the typos and such. Expected people would be able to work it out on their own.


Assuming that the only thing effecting item price is inflation is also a terrible assumption. If you actually understand the worth of Gaiters you dont need to see a sale history to know that people will pay upwards of 25m for them. You're throwing darts blind as if your "educated" guess is even remotely close to their worth.


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