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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:54 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
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Are you just going to keep repeating yourself, or point to what was actually broken?


I wouldn't take a RNG to merit/xp with me as it is now, so that's not really the point.

They'd be welcome to end game as a normal DD. They were allowed for a number of things in era, when it was functioning correctly. They just weren't like they are here.


so no... we're just taking your word for it on being broken?


There are many very smart people who (seemingly genuinely) believe that RNG is fine and era accurate.

Which I find, personally, hysterical as someone who had RNG lvl’d to 75 around TOAU’s release in a good endgame shell, and the shit was hardly used at all for many reasons.

I understand everyone wants to keep abusing it, because it’s easy, but it’s really ridiculous.

I’m just curious if Nas actually believes it’s still broken or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
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Dodi wrote:
I don't disagree with your points here, I'm just more of a "let's wait and see before we blow a gasket" type of person. I stand by my "one month" prediction. People will adjust and things will be fine. SMN isn't dead and RNG won't be either. Will the overall power level decrease? Perhaps? But will the job be garbage. Nope.



For those complaining about the damage numbers, you are right, let's see what data rolls in. For those complaining about how the job is played in certain situations no longer being viable, they cant just adjust.


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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:55 pm 
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exelyon wrote:
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Mark my words- in one month most ppl won't be complaining anymore and Ranger will still be used about the same amount and to about the same effect. Same shit happened with SMN and look how that nerf turned out...



This was a change to how the class was played that was extremely controversial even on retail. Nas could just literally lower their damage if they were doing too much, much like he did with.... Summoner, which is STILL absurdly uncoded compared to retail, but was fairly and rightfully nerfed in its damage output. Got to disagree that they are the same. And for those comparing it to beast, beast was nothing like retail, and was brought back in line or nerfed too hard. All three of these are different >.>


I was a RNG main on retail when that nerf happened. The job was broken prior and still playable after. Time will tell on here but I don't think it will be as drastic as pl are saying. If your argument is about playstyle/aesthetics, that's personal preference and I'm not going to debate that- it's personal preference.


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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:56 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
There are many very smart people who (seemingly genuinely) believe that RNG is fine and era accurate.

Which I find, personally, hysterical as someone who had RNG lvl’d to 75 around TOAU’s release in a good endgame shell, and the shit was hardly used at all for many reasons.

I understand everyone wants to keep abusing it, because it’s easy, but it’s really ridiculous.

I’m just curious if Nas actually believes it’s still broken or not.


I doubt all this. RNG was used along with BLM as the primary DD on everything except Faf/Nid until the yalm nerf happened. Keep pulling shit out of your ass.

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I was a RNG main on retail when that nerf happened. The job was broken prior and still playable after.


Nah the job wasn't broken. It was the top dog in the era because it was very easy to gear out from sky in a short space of time.

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:07 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
There are many very smart people who (seemingly genuinely) believe that RNG is fine and era accurate.

Which I find, personally, hysterical as someone who had RNG lvl’d to 75 around TOAU’s release in a good endgame shell, and the shit was hardly used at all for many reasons.

I understand everyone wants to keep abusing it, because it’s easy, but it’s really ridiculous.

I’m just curious if Nas actually believes it’s still broken or not.


I doubt all this. RNG was used along with BLM as the primary DD on everything except Faf/Nid until the yalm nerf happened. Keep pulling shit out of your ass.



RNG being able to melee for tp and not manage their hate, but nothing is broken. I'm losing respect for some people in this thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:10 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
Kazen wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
There are many very smart people who (seemingly genuinely) believe that RNG is fine and era accurate.

Which I find, personally, hysterical as someone who had RNG lvl’d to 75 around TOAU’s release in a good endgame shell, and the shit was hardly used at all for many reasons.

I understand everyone wants to keep abusing it, because it’s easy, but it’s really ridiculous.

I’m just curious if Nas actually believes it’s still broken or not.


I doubt all this. RNG was used along with BLM as the primary DD on everything except Faf/Nid until the yalm nerf happened. Keep pulling shit out of your ass.



RNG being able to melee for tp and not manage their hate, but nothing is broken. I'm losing respect for some people in this thread.


Not manage their hate? They wouldn't have to worry about pulling hate and dying?

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:11 pm 
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Ok I’m convinced you only want the game in easy mode


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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:11 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Louiscool wrote:

I wouldn't take a RNG to merit/xp with me as it is now, so that's not really the point.

They'd be welcome to end game as a normal DD. They were allowed for a number of things in era, when it was functioning correctly. They just weren't like they are here.


so no... we're just taking your word for it on being broken?


There are many very smart people who (seemingly genuinely) believe that RNG is fine and era accurate.

Which I find, personally, hysterical as someone who had RNG lvl’d to 75 around TOAU’s release in a good endgame shell, and the shit was hardly used at all for many reasons.

I understand everyone wants to keep abusing it, because it’s easy, but it’s really ridiculous.

I’m just curious if Nas actually believes it’s still broken or not.



so yes....? yes is your answer?

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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:13 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:

so no... we're just taking your word for it on being broken?


There are many very smart people who (seemingly genuinely) believe that RNG is fine and era accurate.

Which I find, personally, hysterical as someone who had RNG lvl’d to 75 around TOAU’s release in a good endgame shell, and the shit was hardly used at all for many reasons.

I understand everyone wants to keep abusing it, because it’s easy, but it’s really ridiculous.

I’m just curious if Nas actually believes it’s still broken or not.



so yes....? yes is your answer?


Pointing out that something is broken, on a game where we are all (presumably) playing to have an authentic experience isn't crying or whining. It's aspiring to actually have the best possible experience.

I'm genuinely sorry if someone is butthurt because they thought they'd always have access to something that isn't intentional and broken, but maybe git gud or something? I don't know.


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 Post subject: Re: Some of you..
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:13 pm 
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Louiscool wrote:
Kazen wrote:
Louiscool wrote:
There are many very smart people who (seemingly genuinely) believe that RNG is fine and era accurate.

Which I find, personally, hysterical as someone who had RNG lvl’d to 75 around TOAU’s release in a good endgame shell, and the shit was hardly used at all for many reasons.

I understand everyone wants to keep abusing it, because it’s easy, but it’s really ridiculous.

I’m just curious if Nas actually believes it’s still broken or not.


I doubt all this. RNG was used along with BLM as the primary DD on everything except Faf/Nid until the yalm nerf happened. Keep pulling shit out of your ass.



RNG being able to melee for tp and not manage their hate, but nothing is broken. I'm losing respect for some people in this thread.


You can lose all the respect you want, I think you're actually retarded.

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