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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:19 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:43 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:32 am 
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Kazen wrote:
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How is this the same? I am simply bitching about prices on shit that moves at a higher cost that have been undercut like crazy. Nothing about some crazy ass 70000% mark ups on those rigs in that other thread.

Go look at the sale history. I am not even on there. I play Luthor and Danknugz. Neither are on the list of transactions for either item in discussion here

Edited: Luth is on Plats once last week


He complained about undercutting, you complained about undercutting. That's how they are the same.


And you amazingly gloss over the rest of my post. Good day.


Deft out here referring to himself in the third person. I know you're a taru but that heads getting bigger everyday. ;)

And to the OP, who's to say what the "value" of a gold ingot is? It's value is dictated by the worth of those selling it and the amount of people buying it. Perhaps people with less gil making capabilities are farming them now, so to them 130k a stack is worth it to sell at the rate it will. Why don't you do what you're saying they should be doing, sit on all of your gold ingots until the price goes up. If you cant expect yourself to do the same, then I fail to see your point. Gold ingot prices will ALWAYS fluctuate based off if someone is pounding through them to skill up goldsmithing. Regular usage in order to make crafts that involve ingots will never be enough to maintain a steady price, and will always lead to overstock and undervaluing. This probably will only get worse assuming the amount of players farming will increase at a rate higher than the amount of people skilling up on gold ingots (very likely).


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:40 am 
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ginger cookies again? wtf.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:03 pm 
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Luthor wrote:
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If you think they're currently undervalued, buy up a lot of stock and try to reset the price at what you think is a more fair market value.

Economics.


This requires seed money I have not had an opportunity to accumulate yet. I have tried this for lesser valued items and wound up losing money. But I understand the point


It's supply and demand. If gold ingots are selling for 120k, they're worth 120k. Same with ele ore, same with emperor hairpins, same with everything else. The price is going down because of supply. When On Stock hits 0, that's when the price will go up, OR if only a few people are controlling the supply, which isn't the case for this stuff, there are many more people playing now, newer players trying to farm, and they're going to sell for w/e because they're poor and want that money quickly for short-term bursts of progress towards their gear.

There's hundreds of things you can do, there are tons of NMS being camped by 1 or 2 people, there are many items that come from various sources being farmed/crafted/sold by 1 or 2 people ... on a server with thousands of people.

Ore/Ingots are easy, low-entry cost methods of money that people will flock to until it's barely worth it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:52 pm 
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ginger cookies again? wtf.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:05 pm 
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I think the Kraken Club are overvalued.

Do you see me making threads about it? Maybe.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:34 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
Why don't you do what you're saying they should be doing, sit on all of your gold ingots until the price goes up...


This is all that needs to be said right here, and I doubt the OP will address it, so it's clear that he's just wasting the time of everyone responding.

All you want is the proper amount of gil for the time you spent farming? Then wait around til the prices go back up where you want it, and THEN sell your items. Not gonna do that? Yea, didn't think so.

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