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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:35 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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Or just don’t have banks


No one has ever been able to explain to me the reason to have one lol


And it is not like you never joined us for an OWNM run Wolff? xD
Exactly therefore! To distribute the gil after an item sold ;)

But yeah, it is definitely not nice to have your account banned for trades (provided you are innocent) and also having to wait for the unban for weeks..while in other cases (MPK *cough*) the issue is being handled right away.

It is just the way things are unfortunately. Nas is a one-man-army after all! Thank you anyway for taking care of us ffxi-nerds :D


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:44 pm 
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Alexandor wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Kubisnaxx wrote:
Or just don’t have banks


No one has ever been able to explain to me the reason to have one lol


And it is not like you never joined us for an OWNM run Wolff? xD
Exactly therefore! To distribute the gil after an item sold ;)

But yeah, it is definitely not nice to have your account banned for trades (provided you are innocent) and also having to wait for the unban for weeks..while in other cases (MPK *cough*) the issue is being handled right away.

It is just the way things are unfortunately. Nas is a one-man-army after all! Thank you anyway for taking care of us ffxi-nerds :D



haha my hatred for the LS Bank was well documented. I picked up immediately every time something sold because of it. You don't need a bank to distribute gil.. Each time a group runs, one person in the group could just be responsible for selling/distributing afterwards.

That's all.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:15 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Rip.

Not the first, won’t be the last.

Friends don’t let friends have LS banks.

Wait, don't we share a same LS that has a bank?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:43 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
haha my hatred for the LS Bank was well documented. I picked up immediately every time something sold because of it. [...]
orly? you have over a mil in RFK's bank. go pick it up. some of it is from feb. jesus. lol


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:53 pm 
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Julia wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
haha my hatred for the LS Bank was well documented. I picked up immediately every time something sold because of it. [...]
orly? you have over a mil in RFK's bank. go pick it up. some of it is from feb. jesus. lol


Great example of why no bank system is good. I’d give you guys credit that you have a better system than any other I’ve seen. But it’s still a system where one person takes 5% of everything for simply handling sales that the groups could’ve handled themselves. You can’t possibly have a real track on all the items you guys farm and there’s no way to track private sales. I know for sure because there was absolutely things I never got paid out on. I never cared. I don’t hang out with y’all to make money. I honestly just enjoy ownms and never get a chance to do em anymore. Just my opinion on banks in general.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:05 am 
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Aeroo, yeah, you have some gil in the RFK bank. When did you last pick up? We can talk about this more in LS.

EDIT: Oh, and according to the spreadsheets, the last time RFK's bank took a sales commission was December 2018.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:21 am 
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Aeroo wrote:
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Wolffhardt wrote:
haha my hatred for the LS Bank was well documented. I picked up immediately every time something sold because of it. [...]
orly? you have over a mil in RFK's bank. go pick it up. some of it is from feb. jesus. lol


Great example of why no bank system is good. I’d give you guys credit that you have a better system than any other I’ve seen. But it’s still a system where one person takes 5% of everything for simply handling sales that the groups could’ve handled themselves. You can’t possibly have a real track on all the items you guys farm and there’s no way to track private sales. I know for sure because there was absolutely things I never got paid out on. I never cared. I don’t hang out with y’all to make money. I honestly just enjoy ownms and never get a chance to do em anymore. Just my opinion on banks in general.

We've done pretty well. Some stuff slips through the cracks, but I think without a centralized bank there would be far more in the wind.

I certainly keep track of making sure stuff I was in on ends up on the spreadsheet. If I never pick up payment after that, it's on me ;D

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:50 am 
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Centralizing the OWNM sales was done for two reasons. One reason was to serialize the sales postings. This is what Wolff doesn't like, because it conceals RFK's inventory numbers from anyone without access to the spreadsheet. The other reason was to prevent LS members from competing against each other at the AH. It is designed so that there's only one person selling, so we don't have to worry about undercutting ourselves.

RFK's bank belongs to its members. We have a tremendously detailed spreadsheet that accounts for every gil, and we have been getting better at recordkeeping our chains of custody regarding the drops. We are missing a few sorcerer's rings, I believe, that are probably on characters that haven't logged on in a while. And we definitely lost a sizeable number of items when Zera got hacked. But we hold gil as long as we can. Strilibi still has 3m waiting for him if he ever bothers to take it. I think we do pretty damn well.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:48 pm 
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Nekozuko wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Rip.

Not the first, won’t be the last.

Friends don’t let friends have LS banks.

Wait, don't we share a same LS that has a bank?



not one that I participate in :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:49 pm 
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Julia wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
haha my hatred for the LS Bank was well documented. I picked up immediately every time something sold because of it. [...]
orly? you have over a mil in RFK's bank. go pick it up. some of it is from feb. jesus. lol



Is this with the hacked bank? Is this with the bank controlled by the person that randomly quit (rip Locke)? I can't keep track anymore.

I mean this sincerely, and genuinely, and not to troll: I have no idea how to get the gil you say I have in the bank. No idea who controls the bank, no idea who the bank is, and I actually don't think I have the latest spreadsheet lol.

I'll hop in the LS next time, because this isn't a forum related thing... and my hatred for LS banks is 15 years old, and unrelated to RFK, so it wasn't really a knock on you guys. At least you track it fairly well, and allow people to pick-up the gil. Most LS banks are not to control payments back to the LS for things they farm, but rather to fund other things.. which, as Aeroo pointed out, is just a gigantic gift to the leader when they want it.

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