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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:06 pm 
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CVS wrote:
Riosu wrote:
CVS wrote:
first off this happened to me also i dont care that i was banned but my friend uses my laptop at work and uses same ip and he is innocent he has sent tickets but mr. clean wont listen to him so fuck it he plays wow classic now


Seems it needs to be spelled out a little better for you guys.

• Account sharing is not permitted in any way. Your character is yours, and yours alone.
• Violating this rule will link your character with another IP that does not belong to you.
• If a character from that IP performs an action resulting in discipline, your characters will also be subject to the same punishment, up to and including loss of character/account.

This means that if you visit someone's house and connect, using the same IP, you have just linked your character with your friend's.

Therefore, either

1). Neither of you can read.

2). Your friend cannot read and you do not care about your friend.

We work together on one laptop


And so you knew the risks. You are to blame here buddy.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:07 pm 
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Nasomi forces none of us to play on his server. If you think he wasted your time you are wrong, you wasted your time. You can be a nice guy and help people out and still be a cheater or rule breaker. The rules are there for all to see and if your comprehension skills aren’t up to par well maybe you should be spending your valuable time on abcmouse. If you really wanna cheat so bad or find that cheating isn’t worth your time here I’m positive SE has no problem collecting your monthly sub fees and you can cheat all you want there these days. You like to complain about the speed at which Nasomi releases new content then you complain over a few bugs and glitches and yet you want him to spend countless unpaid hours digging thru logs only to complain again that new content is delayed or janky. Most of us have never seen mordion gaol here and it isn’t that difficult of a zone to avoid. Play the game git good and move on with your day.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:08 pm 
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How do some of you armchair quarterbacks suggest he police the server considering he cannot tell who is who when 50 players are connected to 1 public IP? It's right there in the rules that this may happen. It's a private server, not Riot Games that spends millions and has systems in place both to protect their user base and intellectual property.

It's unfortunate that some upstanding Chinese players are getting banned. Considering the behavior of some of the non-Chinese players on the server, I don't think they are any more or less likely to cheat than NA players. There are always going to be false positives in any situation where certain criteria is used to automatically flag an event. These systems aren't perfect, and if there is a tragedy here it's not that there are false positives, it's that Nasomi has to spend so much of his time policing the server because there is so much rampant cheating going on. Some of you need to look inward. Some of you just need to go away.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:08 pm 
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Riosu wrote:
CVS wrote:
Riosu wrote:

Seems it needs to be spelled out a little better for you guys.

• Account sharing is not permitted in any way. Your character is yours, and yours alone.
• Violating this rule will link your character with another IP that does not belong to you.
• If a character from that IP performs an action resulting in discipline, your characters will also be subject to the same punishment, up to and including loss of character/account.

This means that if you visit someone's house and connect, using the same IP, you have just linked your character with your friend's.

Therefore, either

1). Neither of you can read.

2). Your friend cannot read and you do not care about your friend.

We work together on one laptop


And so you knew the risks. You are to blame here buddy.


The point is the system is flawed, and proves Nasomi didn't look at actual hard in-game logs beyond just those that were reported.

Nas people have offered you free help, and still do. Especially on the Facebook page. Who said you had to pay anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:09 pm 
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CVS wrote:
nasomi wrote:
Anyone willing to come up with a better solution than ip tracking is welcome to do so. Every step i've taken has been to enhance the security of the server and personal accounts. The ONE email/forum account allowing 3 game accounts was supposed to resolve this issue, and has helped greatly. However very few chinese abide by this policy. Even so, I do not actively hunt them down and enforce this policy, if they followed it would make their accounts safer and my job easier.. Aside from collecting billing information from each person, I don't know what else I can do. "This is not my character." -This statement has no merit when you connect from the same IP, yet you don't follow the 1 forum account rule.

So the great Killer of his player base replies !!!! Shocked Why havent you handed the banns down to other who duped with me and other but they are safe i have you their names and other info. They also have done dyna spam but nothing . But china suffers . When you look at all your hardware and family just remember its all made in China



that's why china #1


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:11 pm 
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nasomi wrote:
Anyone willing to come up with a better solution than ip tracking is welcome to do so. Every step i've taken has been to enhance the security of the server and personal accounts. The ONE email/forum account allowing 3 game accounts was supposed to resolve this issue, and has helped greatly. However very few chinese abide by this policy. Even so, I do not actively hunt them down and enforce this policy, if they followed it would make their accounts safer and my job easier.. Aside from collecting billing information from each person, I don't know what else I can do. "This is not my character." -This statement has no merit when you connect from the same IP, yet you don't follow the 1 forum account rule.


我们所说的意思你还没听明白。中国的网络不好,或者是nasomi ban china IP . 没有vpn 绝大部分情况不能登陆游戏,(中国主要网络运营商,电信,移动,联通) 都不能好好的体验国外的游戏,所以我们就在网络上下载了 8LAG 这个vpn ,这个VPN 可以帮助我们解决这个问题,现在却被说成同一IP, 全部账户禁止,我可以把我的 VPN 账号 的 登陆时间,发给你们看,我的VPN服务是是单用户的,只能登陆一台电脑,所以IP 地址相同都是这个8LAG 软件的原因,所以我有证据说我是无辜的。我马上上传图片

You haven't listened to understand what we mean. China's network is bad, or nasomi ban China IP. Without VPN most cannot log in the game (in China's major network operators, telecommunications, mobile, unicom) cannot well the game experience abroad, so we went on the Internet to download 8 lag the VPN, the VPN can help us to solve this problem, but now I was said to the same IP, all account banned, I can put my VPN account login time, sent to you see, my VPN service is a single user, can land a computer, so the same IP address is the cause of the 8 lag software, so I have evidence that I was innocent. I'll upload pictures
yasuo , 现在提交证据图片。


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:12 pm 
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Arieus wrote:
Riosu wrote:
CVS wrote:
We work together on one laptop


And so you knew the risks. You are to blame here buddy.


The point is the system is flawed, and proves Nasomi didn't look at actual hard in-game logs beyond just those that were reported.

Nas people have offered you free help, and still do. Especially on the Facebook page. Who said you had to pay anyone?


So your point is that Nas should overlook people breaking one rule that would be very convenient for your situation and instead focus on other rules?

Great stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:12 pm 
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nasomi wrote:
Any help from any player would be a direct conflict of interest.

Arieus wrote:
Nas people have offered you free help, and still do. Especially on the Facebook page. Who said you had to pay anyone?

Reading comprehension doesn't come easy to everyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:15 pm 
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nasomi wrote:
nasomi wrote:
Any help from any player would be a direct conflict of interest.

Arieus wrote:
Nas people have offered you free help, and still do. Especially on the Facebook page. Who said you had to pay anyone?

Reading comprehension doesn't come easy to everyone.


I thought you were referring to any help from any player in regards to those cheating and using there earnings to boost friends accounts. I interpreted it that way since I've been going on so much about you banning my buddies for doing nothing wrong.

But yeah, I get it. I think that conflict of interest far under weighs what is going on now though. Was Deadwing the reason you don't want any more player help? :o

Sending people logs to scan for discrepancies for proof of cheating doesn't seem like it would be giving away much information...you already have Rinkie doing your dirty work.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:16 pm 
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nasomi wrote:
Anyone willing to come up with a better solution than ip tracking is welcome to do so. Every step i've taken has been to enhance the security of the server and personal accounts. The ONE email/forum account allowing 3 game accounts was supposed to resolve this issue, and has helped greatly. However very few chinese abide by this policy. Even so, I do not actively hunt them down and enforce this policy, if they followed it would make their accounts safer and my job easier.. Aside from collecting billing information from each person, I don't know what else I can do. "This is not my character." -This statement has no merit when you connect from the same IP, yet you don't follow the 1 forum account rule.


Hey, Nas.

As someone who works in policy enforcement, I actually have a few suggestions if you're willing to take the time. Perhaps we can chat in private?

-Asharu

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Main: Asharu
LS: Misfortune
Discord: Ash#7545
http://misfortunels.guildwork.com/


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