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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:58 pm 
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linvala wrote:
"Chess ToD" ring any bells?


Yep. I took a screenshot of when he died.


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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:18 pm 
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LoO area is prime example. I made a post after catching Bxd mpk'ing everyone not 1 but 2 times, one being a video. Nothing happened to Bxd til recently. But not only do ppl mpk with LoO PH, they mpk with gobs. They can spawn too weak, or EP and ppl deliberately kill the ones that dont aggro so they aggro potential afk'ers. If they are afk and dont have a friend there to save them, they let them die. Ppl time the gob pops at the same time after pH dies, knowing someone will afk for 15min. Is that mpk too?


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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:29 pm 
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Vivix wrote:
Hamster wrote:
Sounds like you have everything to gain and nothing to lose if you post the information, meanwhile nas doesn't care either way, so it seems pointless to withhold the information for any reason other than to create drama, or you don't actually have said screenshots.


I do have something to lose: my only piece of evidence that nas hasn't seen. Nas has never had a conversation with me about it, but yes it seems like he doesn't care, although he's never acknowledged me directly, probably on purpose to keep me on the ropes for drama.

He does have conversations with dupers and actual cheaters who have completely screwed the balance of his server and created countless hours of work, yet doesn't give the time of day to many legit players with grievances (see naschat and support forums). I don't blame him for taking orders from TS and taking a glance at a screenshot and making a quick decision without considering any possible context. He's one person. And to him, I probably seemed all the more guilty because I was initially asking to be unbanned for an entirely different reason.

All I'm asking for is the acknowledgment that anyone AFKing in an aggro zone is not dependent on others to keep them alive or adjust their gameplay in any way. If that's the case, then I am free. Seems like a very simple rule that is standard in FFXI etiquette.



He talks to dupers and cheaters because he has to verify and confirm whether they should be banned. Yours was extremely obvious.

Chess was alive and fine while he was AFK. You then took an action that killed him. That's the definition of an MPK. Your saying of, "don't AFK in an NM zone unless you want to die" isn't actually a saying. It's just something you made up to make your cheating feel better.

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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:50 pm 
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CosignCody wrote:
LoO area is prime example. I made a post after catching Bxd mpk'ing everyone not 1 but 2 times, one being a video. Nothing happened to Bxd til recently. But not only do ppl mpk with LoO PH, they mpk with gobs. They can spawn too weak, or EP and ppl deliberately kill the ones that dont aggro so they aggro potential afk'ers. If they are afk and dont have a friend there to save them, they let them die. Ppl time the gob pops at the same time after pH dies, knowing someone will afk for 15min. Is that mpk too?


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Lol got banned. As he says, if you afk in a dangerous spot "Get fucked"


Cute that you think this is why Bxd got banned.

Shame you're so naive.

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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:50 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
Vivix wrote:
Hamster wrote:
Sounds like you have everything to gain and nothing to lose if you post the information, meanwhile nas doesn't care either way, so it seems pointless to withhold the information for any reason other than to create drama, or you don't actually have said screenshots.


I do have something to lose: my only piece of evidence that nas hasn't seen. Nas has never had a conversation with me about it, but yes it seems like he doesn't care, although he's never acknowledged me directly, probably on purpose to keep me on the ropes for drama.

He does have conversations with dupers and actual cheaters who have completely screwed the balance of his server and created countless hours of work, yet doesn't give the time of day to many legit players with grievances (see naschat and support forums). I don't blame him for taking orders from TS and taking a glance at a screenshot and making a quick decision without considering any possible context. He's one person. And to him, I probably seemed all the more guilty because I was initially asking to be unbanned for an entirely different reason.

All I'm asking for is the acknowledgment that anyone AFKing in an aggro zone is not dependent on others to keep them alive or adjust their gameplay in any way. If that's the case, then I am free. Seems like a very simple rule that is standard in FFXI etiquette.



He talks to dupers and cheaters because he has to verify and confirm whether they should be banned. Yours was extremely obvious.

Chess was alive and fine while he was AFK. You then took an action that killed him. That's the definition of an MPK. Your saying of, "don't AFK in an NM zone unless you want to die" isn't actually a saying. It's just something you made up to make your cheating feel better.



Not to mention saying "Chess RIP" or whatever shows Vivix knew exactly what was happening and what he was doing.

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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:02 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
Chess was alive and fine while he was AFK. You then took an action that killed him. That's the definition of an MPK. Your saying of, "don't AFK in an NM zone unless you want to die" isn't actually a saying. It's just something you made up to make your cheating feel better.


Dying in an aggressive mob/NM spawn area is a feature of the game by design. It is there so you can't just AFK and get TODs, you actually have to play to advance yourself (i.e getting the TOD or killing the mob). Obviously, people try to circumvent that as much as possible to gain an advantage and have found small areas that allow you to avoid aggro and get TODs at the same time. This was not what happened in my scenario.

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Not to mention saying "Chess RIP" or whatever shows Vivix knew exactly what was happening and what he was doing.


Like I've said before, I watched Chess die. My action in self-preservation unfortunately resulted in a situation where Despot killed him. He should have known better and made sure his character was in a nonaggressive area. I mean, shit, just look what your buddy Aeroo said: "if you're afk in a dangerous spot, get fucked."


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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:05 pm 
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Bielsa wrote:
CosignCody wrote:
LoO area is prime example. I made a post after catching Bxd mpk'ing everyone not 1 but 2 times, one being a video. Nothing happened to Bxd til recently. But not only do ppl mpk with LoO PH, they mpk with gobs. They can spawn too weak, or EP and ppl deliberately kill the ones that dont aggro so they aggro potential afk'ers. If they are afk and dont have a friend there to save them, they let them die. Ppl time the gob pops at the same time after pH dies, knowing someone will afk for 15min. Is that mpk too?


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Lol got banned. As he says, if you afk in a dangerous spot "Get fucked"


Cute that you think this is why Bxd got banned.

Shame you're so naive.


I never said thats why, he was even more stupid in other ways to get banned lol. Ppl and their pointless comments.. always a kicker. How about we stay on topic and throwing disses like were 12 lol

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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:07 pm 
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Vivix wrote:
Like I've said before, I watched Chess die. My action in self-preservation unfortunately resulted in a situation where Despot killed him. He should have known better and made sure his character was in a nonaggressive area. I mean, shit, just look what your buddy Aeroo said: "if you're afk in a dangerous spot, get fucked."


If you're going to quote the man, at least do it from the thread this came from:

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I think we all know about chess lol but clearly vivix was the douchebag of this day.


Aeroo wrote:
A lot will write this off because of the victim. But this isn't really any different than what Rixx did, who did get banned.

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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:27 pm 
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My bad, I thought it was pertaining to the situation at least bc if you can "get fucked" at LoO then the same applied elsewhere. Sorry was naive in thinking XD

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 Post subject: Re: Selective editing
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:51 pm 
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Vivix wrote:
Starbright wrote:
Chess was alive and fine while he was AFK. You then took an action that killed him. That's the definition of an MPK. Your saying of, "don't AFK in an NM zone unless you want to die" isn't actually a saying. It's just something you made up to make your cheating feel better.


Dying in an aggressive mob/NM spawn area is a feature of the game by design. It is there so you can't just AFK and get TODs, you actually have to play to advance yourself (i.e getting the TOD or killing the mob). Obviously, people try to circumvent that as much as possible to gain an advantage and have found small areas that allow you to avoid aggro and get TODs at the same time. This was not what happened in my scenario.

Kazen wrote:
Not to mention saying "Chess RIP" or whatever shows Vivix knew exactly what was happening and what he was doing.


Like I've said before, I watched Chess die. My action in self-preservation unfortunately resulted in a situation where Despot killed him. He should have known better and made sure his character was in a nonaggressive area. I mean, shit, just look what your buddy Aeroo said: "if you're afk in a dangerous spot, get fucked."



... you think Chess was AFK to get Despot's ToD?

Again, he wasn't AFK in a dangerous area. He was AFK in an area that you made dangerous by pulling an aggro mob that doesn't despawn to him, and then using a JA to shed aggro.

People AFK at the teleport pad entering into Sky all the time... If you drag Despot down there and hide, you're going to get banned lol. Nas didn't talk to you because what you did was literally the perfect example of a rule he wrote to ban people.

As for the "he should've known better" defense, one of you is banned for the interaction and one of you isn't. You can decide who should've known better.

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